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Old Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:21pm
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You guys all are forgetting the most important thing here. The football field, basketball court, baseball diamond or whatever surface your sport is played on isn't just an extra-curricular site. It is an extension of the classroom and at the high school level we as officials are educators too. It is our responsibility to enforce sportsmanship and other rules. As an educator you would not allow any sort of tobacco in your classroom and that is what the football field is, a classroom.
I get that "extension" speech quite a bit concerning coaches behavior too. How many d@#n, $#!t'Z, #3!!'s do you flag in your extended classroom on Friday night?
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I get that "extension" speech quite a bit concerning coaches behavior too. How many d@#n, $#!t'Z, #3!!'s do you flag in your extended classroom on Friday night?
Much like a teacher would do, I warn when it is appropriate. I have flagged for it too. They usually stop after my warning or they are much more strategic when doing it.
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I don't think the question is so much why it's illegal, but why this. Why not explicitly prohibit other things that are forbidden during the classroom.

MD was joking in the other thread, but why not prohibit knives, for example?

Further, why make it a flagrant offense?

Personally, I don't have a problem with the rule as it is, but I do wonder why.
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Old Tue Sep 24, 2013, 08:57am
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How about you just paddle the coach at halftime or suspend him for a quarter!
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Old Tue Sep 24, 2013, 12:41pm
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You guys all are forgetting the most important thing here. The football field, basketball court, baseball diamond or whatever surface your sport is played on isn't just an extra-curricular site. It is an extension of the classroom and at the high school level we as officials are educators too. It is our responsibility to enforce sportsmanship and other rules. As an educator you would not allow any sort of tobacco in your classroom and that is what the football field is, a classroom.

And for those of you that say this isn't a safety rule, try checking this out.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pict...GoPmqQHljoDICQ
You could get killed driving to or from the game, too. It just seems a far-fetched cx.

And no, I don't think it's an extension of the classroom. Extramural sports are entertainment, a way to blow off steam that happens to be connected to schools for arbitrary reasons. They may get out of phys. ed. for a term by playing a sport, but that's about as far as the cx to instruction goes.
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Old Tue Sep 24, 2013, 12:44pm
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That is a matter of opinion, Robert. Most coaches would say you arre wrong about that.
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Old Tue Sep 24, 2013, 12:52pm
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That is a matter of opinion, Robert. Most coaches would say you arre wrong about that.
Most coaches have an inflated idea of their importance. But in that, they're no different from others in "education".
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Old Tue Sep 24, 2013, 01:01pm
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That is a matter of opinion, Robert. Most coaches would say you arre wrong about that.
Maybe, in theory, but if you start applying the same behavior standards on the field that they employ in the classroom, they'd have a cow.

The concept holds true, but it's not exactly the same.
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You guys all are forgetting the most important thing here. The football field, basketball court, baseball diamond or whatever surface your sport is played on isn't just an extra-curricular site. It is an extension of the classroom and at the high school level we as officials are educators too. It is our responsibility to enforce sportsmanship and other rules. As an educator you would not allow any sort of tobacco in your classroom and that is what the football field is, a classroom.
I'm not forgetting anything. I simply don't agree with your analogy.

The field or court is an extension of the classroom for the student-athletes. On that, we agree.

But if it's an extension for the coaches then that's where administrators come in. They should insure that their coaches don't chew, spit or smoke in the classroom, on the field or the court. It has nothing to do with the rules of the game.
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