College Question (with a high school addendum)

[Adam]

Went to the Air Force slaughter today (52-20 loss), and came away with a question regarding college rules.

1/10. Just before the RFP, A decides to run a quick snap. Laundry everywhere.

Move them back 5 yards.

Then, they announced that since it was on first down, it would still be 1/10, only 5 yards backwards.
Is that right by college rules?

Would it be the same in Fed?

[Adam]

Also, I was cracking up on one play AF had in the opposite end zone from where I was sitting. Literally the opposite corner of the field, people were wondering why the refs didn't throw a flag on what they were sure was DPI in the end zone. We couldn't see anything.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Went to the Air Force slaughter today (52-20 loss), and came away with a question regarding college rules.

1/10. Just before the RFP, A decides to run a quick snap. Laundry everywhere.

Move them back 5 yards.

Then, they announced that since it was on first down, it would still be 1/10, only 5 yards backwards.
Is that right by college rules?

Would it be the same in Fed?

No idea what you're talking about. A false start on A would result on 1st and 15.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

No idea what you're talking about. A false start on A would result on 1st and 15.

Sorry, A snapped the ball before the R whistled the ready. "Illegal snap" was the announcement, and he specified it was because they snapped the ball before it was marked ready for play.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Sorry, A snapped the ball before the R whistled the ready. "Illegal snap" was the announcement, and he specified it was because they snapped the ball before it was marked ready for play.

Well that would be a delay of game. Not sure why it would be 1st and 10?

Peace

[Texas Aggie]

1/10 would be correct.

The penalty for any dead-ball foul (including live-ball fouls treated as dead-ball fouls) that occurs after a series ends and before the ball is ready for play shall be completed before the line to gain is established.

As stated above, this is a dead ball foul for delay and since the succeeding spot is a first down spot for a new series, it stays 1/10. This is just like a dead ball foul after a team gains a first down -- if its on A, its first and ten, not first and 25 (for a PF/USC/etc.).

Keep in mind this is unique to a first down play. Had it been another down, the line to gain does not change.