SC vs Mich

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

I always measure when it's needed, but 4-5 times a game seems way excessive. YMMV (and clearly does).

As I stated we are OK with it. I think we have a job to do and it seems to me that is part of our job. We are most of all accused of having an agenda and that takes away that part of their gripe.

Peace

[JasonTX]

I may have had 5 measurements all season long. We rely upon the line judge to determine if we will measure. I am the R and I look to him to tell me if we are short or if it's a first. The game moves smoothly and the coaches appreciate that we don't slow down the game for a useless measurement. The line judge has a straight down the line view and he makes a judgement. The times that we measured were in crucial situations such as 4th down towards the end of the half or game and the game wasn't yet decided.

[bisonlj]

If you are on a well-marked field and the LJ is aware of the LTG he can do a lot to help reduce the number of necessary measurements. If he squares in like he's supposed to he can come in a half yard short or just beyond the LTG depending on how he feels the play ended. If it's too close to call go with what you have and measure. It's no different than making a ruling at the goal line or a runner going out of bounds near the LTG.

[Rich]

The last two posts sum up my view perfectly.

[JRutledge]

We pretty much only measure when it is critical in the game or the possession. And it does not slow the game down. Teams slow the game down with their play selection. The pace of the game is set mostly by the teams and maybe the Referee and the crew getting the ball back to the spot, which we have done very well. I just do not get this attitude of measurements. What are you going to add 10 minutes to the game and that is a bad thing if you did? To me this is like basketball officials that complain about the number of fouls they have to call rather than worrying about more pressing issues, like preventing things that could escalate into things like a fight, but we saved 10 minutes.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We pretty much only measure when it is critical in the game or the possession. And it does not slow the game down. Teams slow the game down with their play selection. The pace of the game is set mostly by the teams and maybe the Referee and the crew getting the ball back to the spot, which we have done very well. I just do not get this attitude of measurements. What are you going to add 10 minutes to the game and that is a bad thing if you did? To me this is like basketball officials that complain about the number of fouls they have to call rather than worrying about more pressing issues, like preventing things that could escalate into things like a fight, but we saved 10 minutes.

Peace

Non-sequitir much?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

Non-sequitir much?

Then why does it matter how much you measure if it tells everyone, "The spot was short." Instead of having a coach (and we know coaches complain) that you did not check to make sure? The only thing I can come up with is the time it adds.

If that is not the case, then tell me why it is not the case?

Peace

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We pretty much only measure when it is critical in the game or the possession. And it does not slow the game down. Teams slow the game down with their play selection. The pace of the game is set mostly by the teams and maybe the Referee and the crew getting the ball back to the spot, which we have done very well. I just do not get this attitude of measurements. What are you going to add 10 minutes to the game and that is a bad thing if you did? To me this is like basketball officials that complain about the number of fouls they have to call rather than worrying about more pressing issues, like preventing things that could escalate into things like a fight, but we saved 10 minutes.

Peace

We know you are going to do what you do and that is fine. I think the point everyone is making is your crew's practice and philosophy is counter to everything you see in the NFL and D1 as well as most of us on this forum. That makes you very unique in this particular practice. Are you at least willing to acknowledge that?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

We know you are going to do what you do and that is fine. I think the point everyone is making is your crew's practice and philosophy is counter to everything you see in the NFL and D1 as well as most of us on this forum. That makes you very unique in this particular practice. Are you at least willing to acknowledge that?

I do not judge a HS crew to what happens in the NFL or D1 level with 7 officials and very well marked fields. Just like I would never compare any college anything to a HS situation. The reality I see a lot of measurements with crews on TV more than I do in my small college crew, so go figure.

Peace