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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:38pm
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Why would that be? If the league is happy with your work, why would you not have a chance of staying on after a resolution?

Sort of smacks of union thuggery, something we can do without.
I'm just making a statement about how things are ... you can have whatever opinion about it and I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong ... just stating what seems to be the facts.
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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 08:54pm
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I'm just making a statement about how things are ... you can have whatever opinion about it and I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong ... just stating what seems to be the facts.
However, using the word scab instead of replacement does color your statement a bit. Just an observation.
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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 09:18pm
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However, using the word scab instead of replacement does color your statement a bit. Just an observation.
True ... I actually debated whether to use that word or not!
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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:30pm
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True ... I actually debated whether to use that word or not!
And that is what you will be called. It is already happening to those that have accepted the opportunity. Also there are guys that are working college can just about kiss their careers there goodbye too. People remember these things and some college supervisors either are former NFL guys or have children working in the league. Good luck with that no matter what you want them to be called, because the reality is people remember what you did, even if you were not actually accepted on the replacement staff.

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Old Thu Jun 21, 2012, 10:46pm
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Which is why they are looking for recently retired college officials. They are done and if they accept the short NFL career, it will be done very quickly also. They are expendable . As long as they keep that in mind, I say why not?

I've read all the commentary about looking your compadres in the eye and "the brotherhood". If your career is over and you can get one, brief probably, chance to work the best, why not take it? Why would your college pals really care? You'll be gone in a few weeks so what if Hochuli calls you a scab. You want be working with him ever anyway. Your former HS associates are so far removed from the issue they don't matter.
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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 01:45am
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Which is why they are looking for recently retired college officials. They are done and if they accept the short NFL career, it will be done very quickly also. They are expendable . As long as they keep that in mind, I say why not?

I've read all the commentary about looking your compadres in the eye and "the brotherhood". If your career is over and you can get one, brief probably, chance to work the best, why not take it? Why would your college pals really care? You'll be gone in a few weeks so what if Hochuli calls you a scab. You want be working with him ever anyway. Your former HS associates are so far removed from the issue they don't matter.
I do not think this is about college pals, it is about supervisors. At the end of the day I think fellow officials can and will understand if they are not NFL officials. It is the supervisors that have personal connections to people in the NFL or had a career. I know that the assigning body in my area for college is run by a former NFL official. I know it is not going to be looked at in the best light by him if guys go to the NFL. At the end of the day this is a personal choice. I know it would not be worth it to me at this stage to even consider this as a option (Not that I am being considered in any way shape or form, just a hypothetical).

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Old Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:42am
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I don't know if the usage would be correct. If you look the word up in the dictionary, virtually all definitions refer to strike-breakers. This isn't a strike but a lockout.

I would not want anything to do with an individual who seeks retribution on someone else simply because that someone makes the decision to fill a spot that is not being filled. If the NFL officials choose not to accept the terms of what the NFL is offering, that's fine. That's their decision, but to retaliate against someone else making a different decision is not only unprofessional but in bad taste. What if I, as a union member, am adamant that we only accept X and the union votes to accept x-y? Am I justified in ostracizing another union member who voted to accept the agreement? If I can ostracize someone who filled in during a lockout, why can't I do the same to someone who voted to accept an agreement I didn't like and went to work under that agreement? Giving a pass to one and not the other has no logical basis.

The officials' union either needs to get the players on their side -- saying there won't be any games until the officials' demands are met -- or they need to sign the NFL's offer and go back to work. Or they need to quit.

You ostracize, retaliate, etc. others at the risk of YOUR own integrity. Make such decisions VERY wisely. How can you do your job on the field if you give up (at least some of) your integrity for purely financial reasons?
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