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Think you handled it correctly. I tend to let coaches vent as long as they don't get personal or question your integrity. Some coaches just like to jaw when they feel they have been wronged. Remember their job is to win. They want every call to go their way.
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Hey, I think it is wonderful that you what to do the white hat. I am in my 2nd year of doing football, and I know that I didn't what to do the white hat this year cause I was not ready. If you are ready in your 2nd year go for it.
Secondly, as every official knows you don't and can't see everything or hear everything. I have to agree that you have to listen to a little bit of crap from the coach but that comes with the area of "work." Also you can just warn them first, then box, then flag.
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Thu Nov 02, 2000, 07:19pm
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I think you handled the situation well. One of the things I like to do is ask the coach if he would like to repeat what he just said. He will respond in one of two ways: 1)He'll then say that he was just talking to his team. or 2)He'll repeat it, at this time you would flag him if necessary. Coaches will say a lot of things before they think, this gives them the opportunity to think about what he is saying and if it is directed at you. Also remember, take as much as you can from a coach. He is feeding his family with his W/L record. You are out there for the enjoyment of being involved in the game.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008, 02:34pm
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It sounds like you put up with a little more than you should, but that isn't a criticism. At your level, I did that as well. Probably still do, in fact.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008, 04:24pm
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When the coach gets hot & heavy explain to him that you just saved a ton of money by switching your car insurance to GEICO...
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Mon Nov 03, 2008, 12:31pm
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I dont think there is any question you handled it well. As for the R being a young guy....I make them in my sub varsity games. That way they can develop a presence, an understanding of the rules and its a nice little day off of sorts from the WH. As for dealing with coaches, everyone struggles with it. Over time you will develop how much you want to take. Veterans know what to say. Always answer a direct question---and answer it in as few words as possible. On the warsity level I never talk to assistant coaches...and I rarely do much talking at a sub varsity game. The sideline warining is a nice tool to use -- but only if it will help with a situation. The other thing is just to concentrate on your job....remember you cant quote silience. Show no reaction and they will go about their business. Unfortunately, I have come to experience that most sub varsity coaches believe they are coaching for a championship ring that day.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008, 01:29pm
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Coaches deserve the utmost respect but when they continually disrespect you. I have often in the past been extremely lenient with coaches because I know the job is difficult. But so is ours. Think you did the right thing when you told the coach you heard enough about that play. Then he still came on the field and was yelling disrespectfully. His response about one more was telling you he was still going to keep talking, time for him to go. I like to think a disqualified coach dismisses himself. I had a coach yell out to my LJ one time, "you're all getting zeroes" (meaning our rating). The LJ tosses the flag. As I come over to find out why his flag was down the coach came over to listen. I calmly informed the coach he was ejected and his response was surprise. I retorted, "You don't want to be here with us zeroes."
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Fri Oct 31, 2008, 04:10pm
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Ed, you just about gave me heart failure. I see the first post in this thread and Mike Sears is talking about being a new official and I know I have been reading his posts for years. I think I must be losing my mind, then I see this is an eight year old post.
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Fri Oct 31, 2008, 04:25pm
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Dear Blue, you're not the only one... 
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Fri Oct 31, 2008, 04:52pm
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Blast from the past. Wow.
This is my fifth year and last week was the first time I'd ever thrown a 15 USC for a coach chirping (there have been other times I've let stuff go that was over the line and regretted it, but that didn't have bearing on this instance). Chirping is annoying, but, fine, vent. But when you question my integrity or that of the crew, I'm not putting up with it. I got him in the first quarter and while one of his assistants, very sotto voce, was speaking about us the second quarter, there weren't many peeps out of them the second half. I agree with Rut - you shouldn't have rabbit ears is one thing that was taught to me early on. But when they cross that line, nail 'em. Coach management is something I need to work on, too. Because my nature is to rip a guy, and you can't do that. One reason I loved being a back judge. Only we don't have them sub-varsity here. 
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Fri Oct 31, 2008, 11:54pm
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You and I both. I thought there was something in that energy drink I had prior to my game tonight.
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Sat Nov 01, 2008, 09:16am
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My big pet peeve at the peewee level is a coach who says, "I just want it called both ways." You've heard them. A few weeks ago I finally flagged a coach after I heard him say that 10 times. Incessantly saying that phrase, to me, implies I have no integrity.
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