high school question

[Jim S]

Where do you find such a statement that the second team in this situation has a "right" to know what the other team is going to do? They don't get to have an advantage because they were the FIRST to foul. Otherewise you are giving them an advantage that the other team does not get, the information as to what the second team is going to do before they have to make their decision.
In this case to be fair to BOTH teams you have them make their choices without benefit of knoledge of what the other team is going to do.
In the case of the single foul you give ALL pertinent information.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Jim S

Where do you find such a statement that the second team in this situation has a "right" to know what the other team is going to do? They don't get to have an advantage because they were the FIRST to foul. Otherewise you are giving them an advantage that the other team does not get, the information as to what the second team is going to do before they have to make their decision.
In this case to be fair to BOTH teams you have them make their choices without benefit of knoledge of what the other team is going to do.
In the case of the single foul you give ALL pertinent information.

I strongly believe that if you float this opinion up your chain of command, you will be summarily disabused of this notion.

[InsideTheStripe]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I strongly believe that if you float this opinion up your chain of command, you will be summarily disabused of this notion.

Agreed. You are not "giving them an advantage that the other team does not get". You are simply giving them their options and stating what the result of each choice will be so they understand the ramifications of their choice.

[bkdow]

I believe that if we wanted to administer it strictly by the book, you would administer the entire penalty of the first penalty then turn to the captain of the second penalty and administer it. We are trying to save time and make it look smooth by "lumping" the administrations together.

You want to say that you see no place where they have the right know. I would ask where in the rule book do you see any precident for withholding information from a coach in any circumstance, ruling, or administration. I think run the risk of being accused of being power-hungry by withholding anything like this.

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by Jim S

Where do you find such a statement that the second team in this situation has a "right" to know what the other team is going to do?

What do you mean "going to do"? The other team has already made their choice of how to enforce the penalty. It is now something that the other team has done. For some reason you don't want to give the team a information that they need.

Dead ball fouls are penalized in the order which they occur. So the correct way to do it would be to enforce the first penalty first. Tell the captain what his options are and also tell him that his team also fouled and that the other team will be given options on how to enforce the penalty also.

Now you go to the other team and give them all the information needed for them to make a decision (where ball will be, what down it will be, how far away the line to gain is, which team will have the ball, clock status). Also remember that the rules require you to give this information to the captain. You can't just make up your own ways of doing things.