Loose ball plays and penalties..help :)

[jjb]

If a foul occurs during a running play, the basic spot is the spot where the run ended. The run ended when the ball became loose. A loose ball may be part of a running play and should not be confused with a loose ball play.If a foul were to occur (during a running play)while the ball was loose, the basic enforcement spotis the spot where the run ended.
see page 79 in 2010 NFHS football rules. Also , B55 may not necessarily have committed a foul if both B55 and the A player were chasing the loose ball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jjb

A loose ball may be part of a running play and should not be confused with a loose ball play. If a foul were to occur (during a running play)while the ball was loose, the basic enforcement spotis the spot where the run ended.
see page 79 in 2010 NFHS football rules. Also , B55 may not necessarily have committed a foul if both B55 and the A player were chasing the loose ball.

That is not exactly true. You can have a series of different plays during a down. You could have a running play, then a loose ball play, then another running play (and continue the cycle. . The classification of the play is based on when the foul occurred and what we consider the basic spot.

Peace

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You could have a running play, then a loose ball play, then another running play (and continue the cycle.

How can a loose ball play follow a running play?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Cobra

How can a loose ball play follow a running play?

Really easy. You have a snap (shotgun) then you have a run with the QB.

Or you have a pass thrown (loose ball play), then a run after the catch.

Or you have a run followed by a fumble (end of the related run), then you have another possession and the ball is recovered and returned.

Peace

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Really easy. You have a snap (shotgun) then you have a run with the QB.

Or you have a pass thrown (loose ball play), then a run after the catch.

Or you have a run followed by a fumble (end of the related run), then you have another possession and the ball is recovered and returned.

Peace

I wrote the question backwards. How can you have a running play followed by a loose ball play?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Cobra

I wrote the question backwards. How can you have a running play followed by a loose ball play?

OK, I still answered your question.

A QB that takes the snap drops back to pass and then passes the ball. You have a running play that turns into a loose ball play. When the foul takes place is how you determine the basic spot.

Peace

[tow]

Aren't runs that precede the loose ball play considered part of loose ball play?
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[kdf5]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is not exactly true. You can have a series of different plays during a down. You could have a running play, then a loose ball play, then another running play (and continue the cycle. . The classification of the play is based on when the foul occurred and what we consider the basic spot.

Peace

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying but I'm not sure you are correct. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Until the play concludes you can't say what type of play was in progress when the foul occurred. You can have a LBP only, a series of running play(s) (related runs) or a LBP followed by a running play(s). If there is going to be a loose ball play there will only be one of them and it will occur at the beginning of the down only.