Loose ball plays and penalties..help :)

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You could have a running play, then a loose ball play, then another running play (and continue the cycle.

How can a loose ball play follow a running play?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Cobra

How can a loose ball play follow a running play?

Really easy. You have a snap (shotgun) then you have a run with the QB.

Or you have a pass thrown (loose ball play), then a run after the catch.

Or you have a run followed by a fumble (end of the related run), then you have another possession and the ball is recovered and returned.

Peace

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Really easy. You have a snap (shotgun) then you have a run with the QB.

Or you have a pass thrown (loose ball play), then a run after the catch.

Or you have a run followed by a fumble (end of the related run), then you have another possession and the ball is recovered and returned.

Peace

I wrote the question backwards. How can you have a running play followed by a loose ball play?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Cobra

I wrote the question backwards. How can you have a running play followed by a loose ball play?

OK, I still answered your question.

A QB that takes the snap drops back to pass and then passes the ball. You have a running play that turns into a loose ball play. When the foul takes place is how you determine the basic spot.

Peace

[tow]

Aren't runs that precede the loose ball play considered part of loose ball play?
2-31-1d

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by tow

Aren't runs that precede the loose ball play considered part of loose ball play?
2-31-1d

Yes.

[ajmc]

For what it's worth, I've always found it easier to focus on isolating what a loose ball play is, because that's fairly limited to 3 basic things.
(NF:10-3-3-1) A loose ball play is action during:
a. A freekick or scrimmage kick, other than those defined in 2-33-1a.
b. A legal forward pass.
c. A backwards pass (including the snap), illegal kick or fumble by A from in or behind the NZ and prior to a
change of possession.

A "Running Play" is any action not included in Article 1 (NF: 10-3-3-2).

As suggested above, a ball becoming loose during a running play is quite different than a "loose ball play", which is limited to the 3 choices shown above. So, if it's NOT a legal forward pass, a legal kick or a backwards pass, or fumble by A BEHIND the line, you're dealing with a "running play" which may, or may not include the ball being loose at some point.