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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 05:35pm
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College replay rules/ requirements

can someone tell me what the rules are for overturning/upholding a call on the field in college. A few weeks ago I saw some calls in the Iowa- Indiana game that went to replay and the replay decisions were strange at best. Same goes for the Illinois- fresno st. game today. 2 point try by Fresno has a pass hit the receiver then the ball is knocked out of the receiver's hands by the defender , the ball caroms backwards and a Fresno lineman catches it and proceeds into the endzone. call on field is that the defender hit the ball thus making reception by lineman legit. It went to replay and as far as I could see the ball clearly hit the receiver first, then the defender then the lineman, making, according to the announcers, a no catch. Replay confirmed call on the field. Does replay guy have some sort of parameter he has to follow to overturn call on field? Are replay guys officials?
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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 10:54pm
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Important lesson - TV analysts are idiots when it comes to the rules. Don't believe anything they say.

In short, the announcers were wrong. It makes no difference who touched the pass first. Once the defender touches the ball, any player is eligible.

As for replay officials, most, if not all, are veteran officials who are retired from active officiating on the field.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2009, 01:37am
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As for replay officials, most, if not all, are veteran officials who are retired from active officiating on the field.
Many of them are the technical advisers for the staffs of those conferences. In other words, they are the ones that evaluate and rate the officials.

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Old Sat Dec 05, 2009, 10:57pm
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It went to replay and as far as I could see the ball clearly hit the receiver first, then the defender then the lineman, making, according to the announcers, a no catch. Replay confirmed call on the field.
Maybe you shouldn't listen to people who have no idea what they are talking about so much.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2009, 12:23pm
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can someone tell me what the rules are for Replay confirmed call on the field. Does replay guy have some sort of parameter he has to follow to overturn call on field? Are replay guys officials?
Chas, if you go through life questioning why an auto dealer replaced a part, based on what your buddy told you a friend told him about auto parts, or questioning your dentist why he drilled your teeth, based on what a neighbor told you happened to him 20 years ago in a different State, you're going to be causing yourself a lot of unnecessary frustration and needless worry.

Write this down, better yet, get a sharp knfe and carve this into your good arm, "Most, if not all, TV football announcers know absolutely nothing about football rules, especially the ones that played the game". After your arm heals, you'll be much happier for the rst of your life.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2009, 01:08pm
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Chas, if you go through life questioning why an auto dealer replaced a part, based on what your buddy told you a friend told him about auto parts, or questioning your dentist why he drilled your teeth, based on what a neighbor told you happened to him 20 years ago in a different State, you're going to be causing yourself a lot of unnecessary frustration and needless worry.

Write this down, better yet, get a sharp knfe and carve this into your good arm, "Most, if not all, TV football announcers know absolutely nothing about football rules, especially the ones that played the game". After your arm heals, you'll be much happier for the rst of your life.
That has got to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read and Alf, in your failed attempt to be clever, you failed miserably to answer the questions!
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2009, 01:38pm
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That has got to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read and Alf, in your failed attempt to be clever, you failed miserably to answer the questions!
The question had already been answered, Jaybird, sorry my response failed to meet your literary standards. I must have missed the announcement that you were appointed resident critic.

Perhaps you'd answer a different question. Why, on earth, would you imagine your impression mattered to me, about anything?
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2009, 04:58pm
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Why, on earth, would you imagine your impression mattered to me, about anything?
I never said or even thought about whether it mattered to you or not, but apparently it did carry some weight as you obviously considered it important enough to respond to. Either it mattered to you or it struck a nerve, prompting a guilty conscience to submit a weak rebuttal.
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Old Sun Dec 06, 2009, 07:40pm
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Settle down fellas! I'm 57 and I've watched countless sporting events. My wife bemoans the fact that she married me in March. I watched the Illini lose to Austin Peay whilst on our honeymoon back in 1985. I do know not to listen to various announcers, like a Billy Packer, but in this situation I couldn't figure out why they went to replay when it was obvious the O lineman went into the endzone. That's when I figured maybe they were looking at who touched the pass first, thinking that somehow an O lineman isn't eligible to touch no matter who touched the pass first.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 10:22am
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I never said or even thought about whether it mattered to you or not, but apparently it did carry some weight as you obviously considered it important enough to respond to. Either it mattered to you or it struck a nerve, prompting a guilty conscience to submit a weak rebuttal.
Jaybird, I've chosen to ignore basketloads of your really stupid comments, much Like I usually ignore a real dopey jerk on the sideline who keeps repeating stupid things trying to make himself sound smart or important.

Every now and then, I wonder, "Maybe this fool is actually so dense he really doesn't understand just how stupid he sounds, so I'll give him a break and try and educate him." Sadly, doing so doesn't often turn any lights on for these type fools, because REALLY stupid runs deep, but at least I tried.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 03:41pm
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Why, on earth, would you imagine your impression mattered to me, about anything?
I dunno. Maybe because you respond every time.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 03:44pm
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I dunno. Maybe because you respond every time.

It's almost Pavlovian.
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 08:50am
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Does replay guy have some sort of parameter he has to follow to overturn call on field? Are replay guys officials?

To answer these two questions.

1. Yes. A replay official must have indisputable video evidence to overturn a call on the field.

2. Replay officials are most often retired field officials. One man from my area is a replay official after spending a number of years as a Big Ten referee.

The replay rules are contained within the NCAA rulebook which anyone can download in PDF format at no cost.
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