College replay rules/ requirements

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by jaybird

That has got to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read and Alf, in your failed attempt to be clever, you failed miserably to answer the questions!

The question had already been answered, Jaybird, sorry my response failed to meet your literary standards. I must have missed the announcement that you were appointed resident critic.

Perhaps you'd answer a different question. Why, on earth, would you imagine your impression mattered to me, about anything?

[jaybird]

Why, on earth, would you imagine your impression mattered to me, about anything?

I never said or even thought about whether it mattered to you or not, but apparently it did carry some weight as you obviously considered it important enough to respond to. Either it mattered to you or it struck a nerve, prompting a guilty conscience to submit a weak rebuttal.

[chas]

Settle down fellas! I'm 57 and I've watched countless sporting events. My wife bemoans the fact that she married me in March. I watched the Illini lose to Austin Peay whilst on our honeymoon back in 1985. I do know not to listen to various announcers, like a Billy Packer, but in this situation I couldn't figure out why they went to replay when it was obvious the O lineman went into the endzone. That's when I figured maybe they were looking at who touched the pass first, thinking that somehow an O lineman isn't eligible to touch no matter who touched the pass first.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by chas

Settle down fellas! I'm 57 and I've watched countless sporting events. My wife bemoans the fact that she married me in March. I watched the Illini lose to Austin Peay whilst on our honeymoon back in 1985. I do know not to listen to various announcers, like a Billy Packer, but in this situation I couldn't figure out why they went to replay when it was obvious the O lineman went into the endzone. That's when I figured maybe they were looking at who touched the pass first, thinking that somehow an O lineman isn't eligible to touch no matter who touched the pass first.

Because it was the play that decided the game. It was not as obvious as you think considering that the official did not immediately signal TD until he found the ball and it was the last play of the game. Of course they were going to review the play. BTW, they review every play in every game; they just do not stop the game or hold up the ending to do it. And this is why you do not listen to announcers; they have no idea why a review is being made. That becomes obvious when you listen to them and then see the actual ruling. I seriously doubt that they need to look long at who touched the ball. For one it was obvious, but they probably looked to see if the runner (OLman) was down or did not cross the goal line.

Peace

[JasonTX]

Originally Posted by chas

Settle down fellas! I'm 57 and I've watched countless sporting events. My wife bemoans the fact that she married me in March. I watched the Illini lose to Austin Peay whilst on our honeymoon back in 1985. I do know not to listen to various announcers, like a Billy Packer, but in this situation I couldn't figure out why they went to replay when it was obvious the O lineman went into the endzone. That's when I figured maybe they were looking at who touched the pass first, thinking that somehow an O lineman isn't eligible to touch no matter who touched the pass first.

Officials just get upset that announcers 99% of the time are feeding the fans incorrect information and they take that information as being true so we end up getting the abuse by fans with false information. Now to the specific question you asked. Per rule, an original ineligible player becomes eligible only after the ball is touched by a Team B (defensive) player or an official. Imagine the QB passing the ball and it bounces off the umpire into Guard #56 for a catch and runs into the end zone. Legal play since the ball touching an officials makes everyone eligible to catch the pass.
Don't tell the coaches that cause I'm sure they may start creating some trick play by deflecting the ball off the umpire.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JasonTX

Don't tell the coaches that cause I'm sure they may start creating some trick play by deflecting the ball off the umpire.

Heck, I already recommend using the umpire as a pick to get open.

[HLin NC]

My question, just from the clip I saw was, wouldn't he have been downfield before the pass crossed the LOS?

[With_Two_Flakes]

I just saw the post about this by TxMike on refstripes and he linked to a YouTube clip.

YouTube - Fresno State vs. Illinois 2009 2-point Conversion

Looks pretty clear on the slomo replay that the lineman was on about the 3yd line (2yd line at worst) when he gets the ball and he had been engaged in blocking a defender. I've got no Ineligible downfield.

[Patton]

Originally Posted by HLin NC

My question, just from the clip I saw was, wouldn't he have been downfield before the pass crossed the LOS?

NC, here's the NCAA rule regarding ineligibles downfield...it just changed this year:

Ineligible Receiver Downfield
ARTICLE 10. No originally ineligible receiver shall be or have been more than three yards beyond the neutral zone until a legal forward pass that crosses the neutral zone has been thrown (A.R. 7-3-10-I and II).
PENALTY—Five yards from the previous spot [S37].

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by chas

Settle down fellas! I'm 57 and I've watched countless sporting events. My wife bemoans the fact that she married me in March. I watched the Illini lose to Austin Peay whilst on our honeymoon back in 1985. I do know not to listen to various announcers, like a Billy Packer, but in this situation I couldn't figure out why they went to replay when it was obvious the O lineman went into the endzone. That's when I figured maybe they were looking at who touched the pass first, thinking that somehow an O lineman isn't eligible to touch no matter who touched the pass first.

chas, bottom line, if you believe what the officials tell you and not the TV announcers, you'll be far better off. Especially ignore the TV announcers when they try to quote rules that are contrary to what the officials rule on the field. Yes, officials will miss calls but not rules.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by jaybird

I never said or even thought about whether it mattered to you or not, but apparently it did carry some weight as you obviously considered it important enough to respond to. Either it mattered to you or it struck a nerve, prompting a guilty conscience to submit a weak rebuttal.

Jaybird, I've chosen to ignore basketloads of your really stupid comments, much Like I usually ignore a real dopey jerk on the sideline who keeps repeating stupid things trying to make himself sound smart or important.

Every now and then, I wonder, "Maybe this fool is actually so dense he really doesn't understand just how stupid he sounds, so I'll give him a break and try and educate him." Sadly, doing so doesn't often turn any lights on for these type fools, because REALLY stupid runs deep, but at least I tried.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Jaybird, I've chosen to ignore basketloads of your really stupid comments, much Like I usually ignore a real dopey jerk on the sideline who keeps repeating stupid things trying to make himself sound smart or important.

Obviously you haven't chosen to ignore my comments because they always prompt a response, each less intelligent than the previous. The only time I have noticed when you ignore something is when it is a rule or case reference that would clear up your misguided notions.

Every now and then, I wonder, "Maybe this fool is actually so dense he really doesn't understand just how stupid he sounds, so I'll give him a break and try and educate him." Sadly, doing so doesn't often turn any lights on for these type fools, because REALLY stupid runs deep, but at least I tried.

Apparently you are still looking in the mirror! You really should not belittle yourself in this manner, no matter how accurate it is, because it can't be healthy.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Why, on earth, would you imagine your impression mattered to me, about anything?

I dunno. Maybe because you respond every time.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by waltjp

I dunno. Maybe because you respond every time.

It's almost Pavlovian.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by Welpe

It's almost Pavlovian.

Ding. Ding. Ding.