Bean Bag

[refbuz]

I found this in the NFL Rulebook under Safety

11-5-1 Exception (c)

If a player of the team which intercepts, catches, or recovers the ball commits a foul in the field of play, and the ball becomes dead in the end zone, the basic spot is the spot of the change of possession.

That being said, a lot of messed up things would have to happen for a ball to be picked-off at the 50 to become dead in the intercepting team's end zone and have a foul on the same play

[bossman72]

I'm fairly certain I saw this in the PIT/SD game last year. If there are offsetting fouls after the interception, the ball is brought back to the spot of the interception. I'm not positive though.

[Reffing Rev.]

I get annoyed at unnecessary bean bags...but not as annoyed as I get at necessary but absent bean bags.

I worked with a top ranked crew this year for one game, they've done state championships 2 of the last 5 years. I was HL, interception in the flat 5 yards in front of me and the BJ threw a bean bag 40 yards to spot the interception, I asked him why, and he said, "Because thats what they (pointing towards the bleachers) expect to see."

I still don't bag interceptions, or fumbles behind the LOS. I only bag spots we might need, which include end of kick and backward passes beyond the LOS. (it might confuse fans when I throw a bean bag on a hook-and-ladder play, but if we need an end of run spot for that play, we've got it.)

[Ed Hickland]

Pittsburg-Denver on the Pit fumble Referee Don Carey bagged the spot where possession was gained that was different from the spot where possession was lost.

[APG]

The bean bag is an enforcement spot for penalties after the interception.

[Bullycon]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I get annoyed at unnecessary bean bags...but not as annoyed as I get at necessary but absent bean bags.

I worked with a top ranked crew this year for one game, they've done state championships 2 of the last 5 years. I was HL, interception in the flat 5 yards in front of me and the BJ threw a bean bag 40 yards to spot the interception, I asked him why, and he said, "Because thats what they (pointing towards the bleachers) expect to see."

I still don't bag interceptions, or fumbles behind the LOS.

I never bean bag fumbles obviously behind the line. Almost always, I think to myself, "I should bean bag those just to be in the habit for when the fumble isn't behind the line." But I never do. But, I don't miss bean bags in other situations. So, I guess I don't need the practice, after all.

I'm sure it's going to hurt perception of me in my association. But I can't seem to make myself do it. Once, I had K recover a scrimmage kick touched by R. No bean bag, obviously. The white hat told me I should throw one there. I said we didn't need it as an enforcement spot. He said, "No, but it lets everyone know that R touched that ball." Later in the game, the same situation occurred. K had recovered the ball before I remembered to get out my bean bag.

I only bag spots we might need, which include end of kick and backward passes beyond the LOS. (it might confuse fans when I throw a bean bag on a hook-and-ladder play, but if we need an end of run spot for that play, we've got it.)

What would you do on a play like Cal-Stanford or Trinity-Millsaps? Bean bag, bean bag, hat, then...?

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Bullycon

What would you do on a play like Cal-Stanford or Trinity-Millsaps? Bean bag, bean bag, hat, then...?

We had a play like that this year and I think we had a couple bean bags down but we definitely didn't get all the fumbles or backward passes (there were probably 6 or 7 on the play). The ball was loose for such a short period of time that it's not likely a foul occurred precisely when the ball was no in a player's possession. If there was a flag, I would assume it took place behind the basic spot and enforce it from the spot of the foul. They are such screwy plays that anything you do will come out screwy. Bag them all if you can but there are many other things to worry about in my opinion (especially since I've now experienced one that got screwy).

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by Bullycon

What would you do on a play like Cal-Stanford or Trinity-Millsaps? Bean bag, bean bag, hat, then...?

Loose change, condom, car keys, belt, in that order.

[VALJ]

Originally Posted by Bullycon

What would you do on a play like Cal-Stanford or Trinity-Millsaps? Bean bag, bean bag, hat, then...?

Finger whistle, neck whistle, left shoe, right shoe, left sock, right sock, shirt, pants ...

[VALJ]

The very first scrimmage I worked as a back judge, we had an interception. I threw my bean bag and hit the spot perfectly from about 20 yards away, and followed the play like I should. I was really proud that I knew what to do, until the veteran BJ asked me why I threw the bean bag and told me we don't need to do that down at this level..

[jaybird]

The NFL mechanics for bagging the spot of an interception is used as an enforcement spot in case of a double foul after the COP.
It is know as a Double after and team B then gets possession at the spot of the interception.

[idiogafting]

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