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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 11:36am
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Blow it dead and give the kicker a do over.

No penalty...... a little common sense should take priority over an encroachment penalty.
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 12:55pm
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bully, can you call encroachment on the kicker? not by rule. I POSTED 6-1-3 ABOVE

ART. 3 . . . After the ball is marked ready for play and until it is kicked, no player,
other than the kicker and the holder for a place kick may be beyond his freekick
line.
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 01:58pm
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bully, can you call encroachment on the kicker? not by rule. I POSTED 6-1-3 ABOVE

ART. 3 . . . After the ball is marked ready for play and until it is kicked, no player,
other than the kicker and the holder for a place kick may be beyond his freekick
line.
Yes, it's possible for the kicker to encroach. The exception here allows the kicker to step into the NZ as he kicks the ball without encroaching. If he otherwise enters the NZ that would be encroachment.
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 02:07pm
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you gotta rule or casebook play?

OK, I get it, he didn't kick the ball so he is not the KICKER!
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 02:22pm
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you gotta rule or casebook play?

OK, I get it, he didn't kick the ball so he is not the KICKER!
NOW you're thinking like an official.
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 02:32pm
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ouch!
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Old Tue Nov 03, 2009, 04:40pm
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bully, can you call encroachment on the kicker? not by rule. I POSTED 6-1-3 ABOVE

ART. 3 . . . After the ball is marked ready for play and until it is kicked, no player,
other than the kicker and the holder for a place kick may be beyond his freekick
line.
That is a good question and that was brought up by one of the officials.

The answer is no, you cannot have encroachment on the kicker. But, in this case, we did not have a kicker. K1 wanted to be the kicker, but he never kicked the ball.

So, I believe the correct ruling on the play is encroachment by K, 5yards and rekick.

This was Pop Warner level, so we just did a rekick with no penalty (and no complaints).
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