Kick off question

[HossHumard]

Originally Posted by jstafan

thanks for the replys. mbyron, I'm thinking of doing just that, after reading all i can find, i actually didnt realize that this game I have been watching for so long is even more intersting when you start to realize all of the rules, I find myself saying alot "now i understand why they called that" and "I didnt know that". our football season is over for youth league and I would like to learn as much as posible for next season. again thank you all for your answers, I'm sure I'll be asking alot more questions.

It's a great way to learn the game you love.....again!

I starting playing six man when I was seven and played all the way up to University. I then coached HS for a few years and had to learn the game all over again. All the skills I developed as a player then had to be explained to young men but I had to figure out why I did them in the first place....lots of "light bulbs" in those years. Then I was a "football dad" as my boys played the game and I enjoyed watching them learn the great lessons that the game can teach as well as all the great guys you meet along the way.

When I put the stripes on in my 40's I had to learn the game a third time....but now as an official. Quite frankly, I was stunned (and ashamed) at how little I knew about the rules. I kept thinking...."after this game being such a big part of my life for 40 years, how is it that I know almost nothing about it's rules?" Quite humbling actually, but not suprising I guess. When you're a player you concentrate on your skills and technique and your physical shape. When you're a coach you help others do the same as well as learn the strategy of the game. You know the basics of course, but not much detail...at least I didn't.

I find now that most coaches don't understand the rules to any great depth, but it doesn't stop them from telling us we've screwed up...part of the great football dance I guess. That's why I have a higher respect for coaches that do take the time to understand the rules (especially the timing under three minutes which can be a real advantage)...they themselves have progressed!

Good luck in your journey. Almost 50 years on a (65 yard wide) football field now for me....and the game never fails to surpise and entertain!

[jstafan]

did anyone see the Navy - Notre Dame game? did you see the on side kick? shouldnt there have been a interference call there?

ARTICLE 1. A player of the receiving team within the boundary lines attempting
to catch a kick, and so located that he could have caught a free kick or a scrimmage
kick that is beyond the neutral zone, must be given an unimpeded opportunity to
catch the kick (A.R. 6-3-1-III, A.R. 6-4-1-V and A.R. 6-4-1-X).

any thoughts?

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by jstafan

did anyone see the Navy - Notre Dame game? did you see the on side kick? shouldnt there have been a interference call there? any thoughts?

I think that kick hit the ground first...

[jstafan]

you must be right, although i looked many times and couldnt see anything. one of the things that get me about those type of kicks is that if you had listened to the anouncers they said that the only thing the kick had to do was travel 10 yds. thats where alot of us unknowning folks think we get "our good football knowledge" I now know with help from this fourm thats not the case. I think that anouncers probably have more impact on what people believe the rules to be then what they actually are.

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by jstafan

anouncers probably have more impact on what people believe the rules to be then what they actually are.

That's true of all reporting, not just sports.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by bossman72

I think that kick hit the ground first...

As the technique for driving the ball, immediately off the tee, down into the ground in hopes that it bounces high over the reach of the receiver's "up" line has improved, it has enhanced the responsibility of the Linesman to focus on every Free Kick to determine if this has happened.

Once that grounded ball passes beyond the receivers Free Kick line it's a free ball, and the kicking team has every right to possess it. To the other officials legal action by the kickers can easily be misunderstood as Kick Catching Interference and draw a flag(s).

It is then the Linesman who must then advise, if the kick had been immediately grounds, which would negate any KCI flags assessed.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by ajmc

As the technique for driving the ball, immediately off the tee, down into the ground in hopes that it bounces high over the reach of the receiver's "up" line has improved, it has enhanced the responsibility of the Linesman to focus on every Free Kick to determine if this has happened.

Once that grounded ball passes beyond the receivers Free Kick line it's a free ball, and the kicking team has every right to possess it. To the other officials legal action by the kickers can easily be misunderstood as Kick Catching Interference and draw a flag(s).

It is then the Linesman who must then advise, if the kick had been immediately grounds, which would negate any KCI flags assessed.

Linesman?
Our mechanics (NFHS) has the Head Linesman on the receiver's 30 yard line.
The Line Judge is on the receiver's restraining line and the Back Judge is on the kicker's line.

[Theisey]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Linesman?
Our mechanics (NFHS) has the Head Linesman on the receiver's 30 yard line.
The Line Judge is on the receiver's restraining line and the Back Judge is on the kicker's line.

Linesman .. Head Linesman are one in the same..
Since Team-K is kicking from the R-30, I think you would want the HL to be on the R-20 as the BJ is already on the R-30 as should be your Umpire on the opposite side of the field.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Linesman?
Our mechanics (NFHS) has the Head Linesman on the receiver's 30 yard line.
The Line Judge is on the receiver's restraining line and the Back Judge is on the kicker's line.

We're still using 4 man mechanics. Whomever has the kicking team's restraining line is obviously the one who needs to know if the kick goes up, or goes down and if necessary relay that information to his crew mates if necessary.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by ajmc

We're still using 4 man mechanics. Whomever has the kicking team's restraining line is obviously the one who needs to know if the kick goes up, or goes down and if necessary relay that information to his crew mates if necessary.

Thanks for clearing it up that you were referring to 4-man mechanics.