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Old Tue Oct 27, 2009, 05:52pm
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Stoping clock to set ball

On a play at the end of the fourth quarter as time was running out with the ball on the defense 5 yard the runner tries to dive into the end zone but is stopped under a pile of defenders within a foot of the goal line.
The officials signaled to stop the clock to determine forward progress and to clear the pile of players to set the ball. When the ball was set the official wound his arm to start the clock again.
Was it correct to stop the clock in this situation to determine the progress to the goal line as well as to set the ball?
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2009, 06:15pm
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Not unless the end of the run was near the line to gain.
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2009, 08:47pm
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On a play at the end of the fourth quarter as time was running out with the ball on the defense 5 yard the runner tries to dive into the end zone but is stopped under a pile of defenders within a foot of the goal line.
The officials signaled to stop the clock to determine forward progress and to clear the pile of players to set the ball. When the ball was set the official wound his arm to start the clock again.
Was it correct to stop the clock in this situation to determine the progress to the goal line as well as to set the ball?
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I'm guessing you are questioning this play because your team lost and you expect the officials on this site to tell you what happened was wrong.

Well, none of us were at the game and can hardly be expected to critique the work of others. Do you want me to come to your job, look at what you are doing, then go tell your boss you are not doing your job?

So, don't come here expecting that kind of treatment.
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2009, 09:13pm
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If anyone on the defense were causing an undue delay in clearing the pile and getting the ball marked ready for play then I would have a penalty for delay of game which would stop the clock and cause it to not start until the snap.

In a situation like the OP I would be vigilant in dead ball officiating to clear the pile and get the ball ready...and any action by team B which is different than what they've been doing all game, I would consider a flag.
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2009, 10:50pm
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What was the down and distance?


ART. 7 . . . An official’s time-out occurs during a dead ball without a time-out
being charged to either team:
a. For measurement of a possible first down.
b. When a first down is declared.
c. Following a change of team possession.
d. When captains and coaches are notified of the time remaining.
e. For a player who appears to be injured.
f. For a player in need of equipment repair.
g. To dry or change the game ball.
h. For unusual heat or humidity which may create a health risk to the players.
i. When a coach-referee conference concerning the misapplication of a rule
results in the referee altering his ruling. (See 3-5-11)
j. After a foul, to administer the penalty.
k. For any unusual delay in getting the ball marked ready for play.
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Old Tue Oct 27, 2009, 11:37pm
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Gee Ed, thanks for your help.
Actually our team won, I don't have any kids playing in the youth organization anymore, but I'm still helping out on the board.
I was just wondering what was the correct call and thought I would ask someone who knows a lot more than I.
It was first and goal from about the 4 yard line, about 12 seconds left in 4th quarter, running back ran up the middle, his arm and the ball crossed the goal line, then he was burried under a pile of players. The 4 referees were untangling the pile of players and discussing if his knee was down before the ball crossed the goal line, that is when they signaled to stop the clock, they decided he was down before the ball crossed the goal line, spotted the ball about a foot outside the line and wound the clock to start. QB sneaked and scored with 1 second left on the clock, extra point was good for a 1 point victory.
There was a lot of debate if the clock should have been stopped, if it had not been there would not have been time for the last play.
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Old Wed Oct 28, 2009, 05:21am
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Sounds like inexperienced officials to me. Discussing whether the ball was across? If I'm a wing and I see the ball cross, I signal TD. What's to discuss?
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