coaches box foul

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

That's fine, but if he's not behind the line at the moment the ball is snapped, he's getting flagged. He doesn't get to "go behind after the snap."

And we will be very aggressive on this during the season. Our playoffs were threatened, too.

Since Indiana playoff assignments are done mostly based on coaches' votes, our playoffs could be threatened for enforcing this.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

Since Indiana playoff assignments are done mostly based on coaches' votes, our playoffs could be threatened for enforcing this.

I guess it boils down to how important working a playoff game is to you.

[GPC2]

In my experience, a coach may not like when you enforce rules - but they do respect you. If the crew discusses this point of emphasis in their pre-game, and if the R reinforces this point of emphasis during the coaches pre-game, and the wing official reinforces this point of emphasis when he meets the coach before the game - and then the infraction is enforced, the coach will certainly understand. He probably won't like it - but I'm sure he will understand.

I would rather have the coach respect me for being a good official, than like me because I pander to him. I have seen too many times when a coach does a 180 and slams that official that panders to him and is "friendly" with him.

[ref1986]

My crew will use the same philosophy on this as we do on all fouls: we're not looking for trouble. It has nothing to do with what the coaches think, because coaches have no input on playoff assignments. I know of no mechanics that have the wing officials looking back over their shoulders either prior to the snap or during the play. My wing officials already work about a yard back from the sideline. If they have room to work during the play, the coaches are probably about two yards back. If they bump into one, it's a flag. Our first responsibility is to officiate the play. Coaches around here have always been good about giving us room to work. I don't expect it to be an issue.

[Mike L]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

Since Indiana playoff assignments are done mostly based on coaches' votes, our playoffs could be threatened for enforcing this.

Yet another reason why allowing coaches to have any say on who officiates their games is about the dumbest idea anyone ever came up with.

Coaches should have no say in who gets playoffs and as far as I know in Georgia they do not. Our Officials Group does'nt maintain a "scratch list" and the coaches have no sayso in what officials they get. Granted Im not going to send someone back to a school where there was a problem this year but it won't affect next years assigning.

[NJumpire9]

Would a photographer or newspaper reporter roaming the sidelines be subject to this rule? Do you flag the hometeam, even if the "local' guy was roaming the visitors sideline or end zone? Does the responsibility lie with home management to keep them behind the 2 yd. zone the full length of the field?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by NJumpire9

Would a photographer or newspaper reporter roaming the sidelines be subject to this rule? Do you flag the hometeam, even if the "local' guy was roaming the visitors sideline or end zone? Does the responsibility lie with home management to keep them behind the 2 yd. zone the full length of the field?

The progression of penalties or warnings goes to the head coach. So if a reporter is in the box, the head coach is responsible.

Peace

[ref1986]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The progression of penalties or warnings goes to the head coach. So if a reporter is in the box, the head coach is responsible.

Peace

Nope.

See 1-2-3(g): ". . . (persons) affiliated with the team."
9-8-3: "No player, nonplayer, or coach shall be in the restricted area . . ."
2-32-1 & 2-32-10: definitions of "player" and "nonplayer."

You can (and probably should) ask game management to get anyone else out of the restricted area, but you can't flag the coach for reporters or photographers.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ref1986

Nope.

See 1-2-3(g): ". . . (persons) affiliated with the team."
9-8-3: "No player, nonplayer, or coach shall be in the restricted area . . ."
2-32-1 & 2-32-10: definitions of "player" and "nonplayer."

You can (and probably should) ask game management to get anyone else out of the restricted area, but you can't flag the coach for reporters or photographers.

If there in the restricted area, then they are affiliated with the team. And many photographers are school photographers. I am not sure what you talking about when non-players are people that are still affiliated with the team (Trainers, Athletic Directors, Booster club members) and if they are in that area, I am not asking for ID to find out for sure.

So if a coach does not want anyone in the team box, they need to make sure they are not around in the first place. Then they will not have to worry about who we think is affiliated or not.

Peace