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We ask the coaches in the pre-game conference as well. If one says receive and the other says defer, I know who is going to have the ball first. If I'm in a jovial mood, I will tell the captains that I am escorting to the R that they will definitely be kicking or receiving the opening kick off (depending on which team I have). They look at me like I'm crazy and laugh when they realize I was right. It's my own inside joke. The things we do to entertain ourselves.
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We never "talk" them out of it. If they truly want to kick, we will allow it. What we do is make sure that they fully understand what their choice entails. When a captain says they want to kick, I will say, "you realize it is your choice this half. They will have the choice in the second half and could end up receiving both halves. Are you sure you don't want to defer instead?" If they still insist on kicking that is their right. It didn't really cost you a possession.
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My perspective doesn't change much on it at all...we teach our captains what to do and say. If they aren't sure, they are taught to turn to our sideline and yell at us - and we yell back what we want them to do. Again, if the other coaches don't do it this way, that's not our fault...if our captains make a poor choice, then we will deal with them at our next practice.
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The Referee's job is to explain options as clearly and completely as possible and deciding whether the explanation has satisfied those requirements is the responsibility of the Referee, alone. If a Captain makes a decision that causes the Referee to question whether his explanation was as clear as he intended, he can, and in fact should, choose to amplify that explanation to whatever depth he believes the situation calls for to satisfy the requirements of clear and complete. If you want to get technical, the procedure outlined in NF: 10.1.1 doesn't mention coaches or officials being involved in the decision process. It instructs, clearly, that the captain(s) be notified and that, "The Captain's choice of options may not be revoked.". It's the Referee's responsibility to insure that the Captain is given the necessary and correct information from which to make a decision, and the coach's responsibility to insure that the Captain is prepared to make the right decision. NF: 2.32.5.c designates the "Captain" as the designated team representative during (c) Penalty decisions following a foul." Sometimes a Referee's job requires multiple explanations before a Captain fully understans his options, or a coach may feel providing additional instructions, from the sideline is necessary, to assist the Captain's decision making. The common objective should simply be that the Captain has all the information necessary to make his best choice. How that plays out may differ from game to game or even penalty to penalty. |
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We just go with cutting out the unnecessary middle man and getting the game moving along.
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Good explanation...and I get it. I'm really not trying to argue the point or anything...I like this explanation and ajmc's. It's an attempt to stop a stupid mistake - I get that. Thanks for explaining it. |
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If the weather is very bad, or something really weird is at work (which I'm sure the coach will tell either me or my umpire before we go out to the field), only then is the kick option a rational choice under any circumstances. Defer, receive, or field position are the only rational choices. Kicking would fall under defer and field side virtually all the time and I'm hard pressed to think of a situation of when a team MUST kick the ball to start the game. I guess if they have a near perfect onside kick recovery unit, but if that's the case, the coach will tell me prior to the game when I ask for such things. Both my umpire and I always ask our captains, "do you know what you want to do if you win the toss" prior to walking out to the middle. So I guess in the absolute worst case scenario, we'll have confirmed a kick option with the coach before leaving the sideline. |
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Once had a captain choose to kick, tried talking him out of it, but he would not have it. Their record was 0-6 coming into the game.
Before the kickoff asked the coach if he told his captain to kickoff and the told proudly said yes, they were a defensive team. Of which, they went on to lose 61-0. Guess their defense was better than their offense! |
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if the team winning the toss defers to the second half, the team entitled to the first half choice has one of three choices:
If they choose 1 or 2, the other team (the team choosing in the second half) chooses which end zone they wish to defend in the first quarter. If they choose 3, the other team (the team choosing in the second half) must choose between option 1 and 2.
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If a coach for whatever reason decides it is better to essentially kick off both halves, let them do it and don't slow down the clock. |
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