How do you identify eligible/ineligible recievers?

[With_Two_Flakes]

Guys, can we try to stay on topic here and stick to helping Brandon understand the eligible/ineligible issue?

He has had the good sense to come here to seek help - lets not put him off.

[Brandon Kincer]

Originally Posted by With_Two_Flakes

Guys, can we try to stay on topic here and stick to helping Brandon understand the eligible/ineligible issue?

He has had the good sense to come here to seek help - lets not put him off.

Thank you With_Two_Flakes. If you guys wanna argue please PM each other.

Now in an attempt to get back on topic, Where is illegal touching enforced from? in the NF rule book it says the "basic spot". Would this be a loose ball foul and be enforced from the previous spot? or is it the succeeding spot since the play becomes a running play after the ball is caught and secured by the ineligible? Also if an ineligible catches the ball, is the play blown dead or is it still live until the ineligible is tackled or reaches the end zone? (I feel I know the answer to my last question I just want to be sure.)

[mikesears]

Originally Posted by Brandon Kincer

Thank you With_Two_Flakes. If you guys wanna argue please PM each other.

Now in an attempt to get back on topic, Where is illegal touching enforced from? in the NF rule book it says the "basic spot". Would this be a loose ball foul and be enforced from the previous spot? or is it the succeeding spot since the play becomes a running play after the ball is caught and secured by the ineligible? Also if an ineligible catches the ball, is the play blown dead or is it still live until the ineligible is tackled or reaches the end zone? (I feel I know the answer to my last question I just want to be sure.)

Hopefully you will quickly learn who you can learn from and who you should ignore.

Now onto your questions.

Illegal touching is handled under all but one principle. Illegal touching by an ineligible will always be a loose ball play. If an ineligible illegally touches a pass behind the line of scrimmage, it is enforced from the spot of the foul. If ahead of the line, it is enforced from the previous spot.

Illegal touching does not cause the ball to become dead. NO live ball foul causes the ball to become dead.

And may I offer a suggestion? If you have other questions other than what the original post was about, you will likely get more responses by starting a new thread.

[kdf5]

You guys are right, my apologies.

[Brandon Kincer]

Originally Posted by mikesears

Hopefully you will quickly learn who you can learn from and who you should ignore.

Now onto your questions.

Illegal touching is handled under all but one principle. Illegal touching by an ineligible will always be a loose ball play. If an ineligible illegally touches a pass behind the line of scrimmage, it is enforced from the spot of the foul. If ahead of the line, it is enforced from the previous spot.

Illegal touching does not cause the ball to become dead. NO live ball foul causes the ball to become dead.

And may I offer a suggestion? If you have other questions other than what the original post was about, you will likely get more responses by starting a new thread.

Thanks for the tip. Ill keep that in mind when asking questions. I was pretty sure it WASN'T blown dead but just wanted to make sure. Thanks again.

Originally Posted by kdf5

You guys are right, my apologies.

Apology accepted No harm, No foul

[KWH]

Originally Posted by Brandon Kincer

Thanks for the tip. Ill keep that in mind when asking questions. I was pretty sure it WASN'T blown dead but just wanted to make sure. Thanks again.

Brandon,
Let me jump right in! So you don't get off on the wrong foot, there is no situation in NFHS football where a penalty causes the ball to become dead or "blown dead" as you stated.

Source: Football Fundamental IX. 1) No live ball foul causes the ball to become dead.

While this is not the case in other codes of football, it is most certainly the case in NFHS.

[trocared]

becuase of the previous pissing match, I glazed over many of the posts...As a wing, if a player is covered up, I say the number of the covered up player, aloud to myself, to remind me to be aware of: 1. If the play begins as a pass, I locate that covered up player, and 2: when ball is passed over the neutral zone, will throw the flag if he is downfield.
While this forum is of great value to all officials, finding a mentor, talking his ear off while treating him to a meal, is of greater value still. Most experienced officials would love to take an eager, open official under their wing.
Good luck,
tro

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by KWH

Brandon,
Let me jump right in! So you don't get off on the wrong foot, there is no situation in NFHS football where a penalty causes the ball to become dead or "blown dead" as you stated.

Source: Football Fundamental IX. 1) No live ball foul causes the ball to become dead.

While this is not the case in other codes of football, it is most certainly the case in NFHS.

But according to discussions here, play is to be whistled dead when it becomes clear a hideout play is in progress, although it's treated otherwise as if it were a dead ball foul.

Robert in the Bronx

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by KWH

Brandon,
Let me jump right in! So you don't get off on the wrong foot, there is no situation in NFHS football where a penalty causes the ball to become dead or "blown dead" as you stated.

Source: Football Fundamental IX. 1) No live ball foul causes the ball to become dead.

While this is not the case in other codes of football, it is most certainly the case in NFHS.

From this year's Points of Emphasis -

The old idea of "hitting until the whistle" is passé. It must be remembered by coaches and officials that the whistle is only confirmation that a play is over. The play kills itself.