How do you identify eligible/ineligible recievers?

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Actually it's just a habit of mine, kdf5, that I use periods instead of dashes when referencing rules. When I reference a Case Book play, I usually state that it's a Case Book reference.

I figured if anyone was interested enough to check the reference, they wouldn't have a problem. If you had bothered to look, you'd know there isn't a 2.32.3 reference in the Case Book, and if you were familiar with the Rule book, you'd know the definitions, themselves, are really only spelled out in the Rule book.

Forgive me if I caused you any undue confusion, if you don't understand something I've posted, ask for clarification, I'll do my best to help you out. If you're going to try and put words in my mouth, be kind enough to reference the correct reference number, dots and dashes aside, the actual reference number is what really matters.

Interpretation/clarification:
kdf5,
This is Al's long winded version of trying to say that he made a mistake. He is apologizing and begging your forgiveness.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Interpretation/clarification:
kdf5,
This is Al's long winded version of trying to say that he made a mistake. He is apologizing and begging your forgiveness.

I'm really at a loss, Jaybird, to figure out what your problem is. Adding one stupid statement after another isn't ever going to make what you offer in general, any less childish.

If you find no value in anything I offer, sorry about that, feel free to ignore me. If you have something of value to offer, which based on what you've offered thus far, is highly doubtful, enlighten me, but behaving like a little pre-teen girl who feels she's been somehow slighted, isn't going to impress anyone and really makes you look bad.

Do yourself a favor, because it really doesn't much matter to me, and get over whatever is bothering you.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by ajmc

I'm really at a loss, Jaybird, to figure out what your problem is. Adding one stupid statement after another isn't ever going to make what you offer in general, any less childish.

If you find no value in anything I offer, sorry about that, feel free to ignore me. If you have something of value to offer, which based on what you've offered thus far, is highly doubtful, enlighten me, but behaving like a little pre-teen girl who feels she's been somehow slighted, isn't going to impress anyone and really makes you look bad.

Do yourself a favor, because it really doesn't much matter to me, and get over whatever is bothering you.

Interpretation/Clarification:
Little feller got his feelings hurt!

"Lighten up, Francis."

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Interpretation/clarification:
kdf5,
This is Al's long winded version of trying to say that he made a mistake. He is apologizing and begging your forgiveness.

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there. Al has a problem of 1) admitting his mistakes and 2) an obsession with getting in the last word and 3) hurling insults as a defense mechanism. I simply pointed out that rules use dashes and case book references use dots. Everyone but him does it that way yet we're the ones who are wrong and he's right. Par for the course. Go ahead, Al, have the last word.

[ajmc]

I realize you're trying really hard to be clever, kdf5, but your your about as subtle as loud fart in church, and you're just not getting it done. Being right has nothing to do with being childish, and I'm afraid it's really obvious what your intent is, no matter how badly you try and camouflage is, and thus far you're a long way from clever.

Neither you, or jaybird, have yet been able to master the skill of being effectively sarcastic, and the unfortunate result of your efforts is pushing both of you more towards acting petty and sounding frustrated.

When you're under no illusion that you're perfect, acknowledging or admitting trivial mistakes is really no big deal. You just adjust, when it matters, and move on, it's really not that big a deal. How I wish mixing dots and dashes or using too many words were my biggest mistakes, or flaws.

For two guys who are so quick to point out the most trivial errors or misstatements of others, you are super sensitive about what amounts to insults, that you perceived are being "hurled" at you. Makes me wonder how you manage to survive on a sideline, that is if you've actually been on a sideline.

I learned long ago that, "getting in the last word" is usually greatly overrated and anyone can always have the last word, but doing so just doesn't mean a whole lot, especially when the subject doesn't amount to very much.

I suspect there might be a lot you two haven't been exposed to yet, to help you understand the difference between what might be important and what really doesn't matter, but as you mature your perception should expand, at least it usually does, and there's always hope that will be true for you.

Like most of your little barbs, these last few are taking this converstaion nowhere, about nothing. It's really up to you how long this conversation continues. You can keep trying to sound glib, which truly isn't working very well for you, or you could add something worthwhile, that pertains to the original question, or you could just conclude you have nothing of any value to offer. Trust me, you won't be the first to reach that conclusion.

[kdf5]

Am I right or am I right?

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by kdf5

Am I right or am I right?

That would seem to depend on what your objective was. If it was to solidify and support all your considerable and consistent hard work to establish yourself as an obstinant, niggling child locked into single-mindedness, I'd say you are progressing famously towards your objective.

[daggo66]

Originally Posted by ajmc

How I wish mixing dots and dashes or using too many words were my biggest mistakes, or flaws.

OMG I don't even want to know what you have that is worse! (how's that for sarcasm?)

Originally Posted by ajmc

I learned long ago that, "getting in the last word" is usually greatly overrated and anyone can always have the last word, but doing so just doesn't mean a whole lot, especially when the subject doesn't amount to very much.

Now if you would ony use that knowledge.

Originally Posted by ajmc

or you could add something worthwhile, that pertains to the original question, or you could just conclude you have nothing of any value
to offer. Trust me, you won't be the first to reach that conclusion.

You may begin at any time.

[kdf5]

Al, what was wrong with simply saying "that's right, rules use dashes and case book plays use dots"? Why did you have to write three paragraphs full of snotty comments instead? Are you that small of a person?

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by daggo66

OMG I don't even want to know what you have that is worse! (how's that for sarcasm?)

Here's a hint: ...loud fart in church....

[With_Two_Flakes]

Guys, can we try to stay on topic here and stick to helping Brandon understand the eligible/ineligible issue?

He has had the good sense to come here to seek help - lets not put him off.

[Brandon Kincer]

Originally Posted by With_Two_Flakes

Guys, can we try to stay on topic here and stick to helping Brandon understand the eligible/ineligible issue?

He has had the good sense to come here to seek help - lets not put him off.

Thank you With_Two_Flakes. If you guys wanna argue please PM each other.

Now in an attempt to get back on topic, Where is illegal touching enforced from? in the NF rule book it says the "basic spot". Would this be a loose ball foul and be enforced from the previous spot? or is it the succeeding spot since the play becomes a running play after the ball is caught and secured by the ineligible? Also if an ineligible catches the ball, is the play blown dead or is it still live until the ineligible is tackled or reaches the end zone? (I feel I know the answer to my last question I just want to be sure.)