Ineligible Down Field

[F C E]

2nd and 10 from A's 30 yard line. Ineligible A71 [a] goes 5 yards beyond the

line of scrimmage on play in which a legal forward pass crosses the line of

scrimmage: [b] A88, who is covered up by A90, catches a legal forward pass

at B's 30 yard line; [c] ineligible A65, who is 10 yards beyond the line of

scrimmage is hit in the back by a pass which then falls incomplete; or[d]

ineligible A50, 10 yards downfield' is hit in the back by a legal pass which is

then caught by A80 and run for a touchdown.

What are B's penality options and from where will the penalties be enforced in

each of these situations.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by F C E

2nd and 10 from A's 30 yard line. Ineligible A71 [a] goes 5 yards beyond the

line of scrimmage on play in which a legal forward pass crosses the line of

scrimmage: [b] A88, who is covered up by A90, catches a legal forward pass

at B's 30 yard line; [c] ineligible A65, who is 10 yards beyond the line of

scrimmage is hit in the back by a pass which then falls incomplete; or[d]

ineligible A50, 10 yards downfield' is hit in the back by a legal pass which is

then caught by A80 and run for a touchdown.

What are B's penality options and from where will the penalties be enforced in

each of these situations.

For NFHS:

a) Ineligible downfield, 5 yard penalty from the previous spot. 2nd and 15 from A's 35.

b) Illegal touching, 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and loss of down. 3rd and 15 from A's 35.

c) Legal play. Incomplete pass. 3rd and 10 from A's 30.

d) Ineligible downfield. Same options as A.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by F C E

2nd and 10 from A's 30 yard line.

[c] ineligible A65, who is 10 yards beyond the line of

scrimmage is hit in the back by a pass which then falls incomplete

Originally Posted by Welpe

For NFHS:

a) Ineligible downfield, 5 yard penalty from the previous spot. 2nd and 15 from A's 35.

b) Illegal touching, 5 yard penalty from the previous spot and loss of down. 3rd and 15 from A's 35.

c) Legal play. Incomplete pass. 3rd and 10 from A's 30.

d) Ineligible downfield. Same options as A.

Welpe, check your answer for [c]. I agree with all others.

[Welpe]

Walt I don't have my books with me right now so I can't look it up; but, I was under the impression that an ineligible receiver had to intentionally touch the ball for it to be illegal touching?

[waltjp]

It's not illegal touching but you still have an ineligible down field.

[Two Call]

The foul in (c) wouldn't be illegal touching, but you still have an ineligible downfield.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by waltjp

It's not illegal touching but you still have an ineligible down field.

Oops! I fail at reading comprehension. I read that as "10 yards behind the line of scrimmage." You are correct of course.

[waltjp]

I figured that's what you did.

[F C E]

Then why in the rule book, page 63 table 7-5, it says enforcement from spot of touching. That is what does't make sense.

[bucblue]

It used to be OPI if beyond the LOS, and Illegal Touching if behind the LOS. The rule was changed, probably to lessen the penalty (no loss of down), but they neglected to change the table.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by F C E

2nd and 10 from A's 30 yard line. Ineligible A71 [a] goes 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage on play in which a legal forward pass crosses the line of scrimmage: [b] A88, who is covered up by A90, catches a legal forward pass at B's 30 yard line; [c] ineligible A65, who is 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage is hit in the back by a pass which then falls incomplete; or[d] ineligible A50, 10 yards downfield' is hit in the back by a legal pass which is then caught by A80 and run for a touchdown.

What are B's penality options and from where will the penalties be enforced in each of these situations.

CANADIAN RULING:

In (a) IRD is 10 yards from PLS, DR; (b) IFP is 10 yards from PLS, DR; (c) IRD is 10 yards from PLS, DR; (d) IRD is 10 yards from PLS, DR.

[ChickenOfNC]

Originally Posted by F C E

Then why in the rule book, page 63 table 7-5, it says enforcement from spot of touching. That is what does't make sense.

Table is incorrect. We were sent a notice about that from our state assoc.