Punt Returner Protection to Catch/Field

[BoBo]

yes i was in a hurry and out touch with the football jargon right now, anyway sure most of you understand, my apologies

[jjrye22]

No problem about the wording. Better to have a pooly worded question than not have the question asked. We can still ask for clarification.

As BktBallRef pointed out Kick Catching Interference is out.

It is possible (probable from the image in my mind) to have a foul on
#3 of Illegal Use of Hands (for holding)

but all the rest should be ok.

Originally Posted by jjrye22

No problem about the wording. Better to have a pooly worded question than not have the question asked. We can still ask for clarification.

As BktBallRef pointed out Kick Catching Interference is out.

It is possible (probable from the image in my mind) to have a foul on
#3 of Illegal Use of Hands (for holding)

but all the rest should be ok.

I would think #3 would be Holding because the ball is live for R to attempt a play and R22 is eligible to touch the ball and make some kind of play with it. I'm thinking of the parallel to tackling an option quarterback after he's clearly made the pitchout to the halfback and the quarterback is still eligible to touch the ball on the play. Or am I stretching the rule a bit here?

[Jim D.]

I agree no KCI. NF Case Book 9.2.3 C is a similar play although it covers a pass behind the line and not a kick. However, the contact is the same as in the plays presented.

A1 is passing to A2 who is behind the line. Before the pass reaches A2, (a) B1 tackles A2 or (b) B1 blocks A2. Ruling (a) Tackling A2 is a form of holding. Defensive players are prohibited from grasping an opponent other than the runner. (b) the contact is not PI and, if the block itself is legal, there is no infraction. (7-5-10)

Originally Posted by Jim D.

I agree no KCI. NF Case Book 9.2.3 C is a similar play although it covers a pass behind the line and not a kick. However, the contact is the same as in the plays presented.

A1 is passing to A2 who is behind the line. Before the pass reaches A2, (a) B1 tackles A2 or (b) B1 blocks A2. Ruling (a) Tackling A2 is a form of holding. Defensive players are prohibited from grasping an opponent other than the runner. (b) the contact is not PI and, if the block itself is legal, there is no infraction. (7-5-10)

So applying the principle from that case play, #3 from the OP could be holding because R22 has yet to touch the ball, no?

[Jim D.]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

So applying the principle from that case play, #3 from the OP could be holding because R22 has yet to touch the ball, no?

Correct, 9-2-3-c A defensive player may not use his hands or arms to hook, lock, clamp, grasp, encircle or hold in an attempt to hold an opponent other than the runner.

Since the player in #3 is not a runner, he can't be held. Penalty - Illegal use of hands or arms.

[indi456]

BTW, your post is kind of difficult to understand. One thing that may help you in the future is that we use R for receiving team and K as kicking team. R22 instead of A22 for example.
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