Questionable Calls Superbowl 43

[RMR]

You just gotta love these nutless, done nothing, been nowhere types going on about "this call or that call was so flagrant or so obvious" BS.

There are those who can do and those who can do no more than complain. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[zm1283]

After watching the video, the roughing penalty on Dansby was WEAK. This is the freaking NFL, not tiddlywinks.

The holding call against Roderick Hood at the start of the 4th quarter was awful.

Nobody has explained why the final "fumble" by Warner wasn't reviewed on the field. You all keep claiming it was a fumble, but how would the officials on the field know without replay?

Keep up with the character attacks about age, etc. It makes you guys look more desperate.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

After watching the video, the roughing penalty on Dansby was WEAK. This is the freaking NFL, not tiddlywinks.

If it was weak, change the rule. You cannot hit the holder ever on your own no matter when it happens or how it happens. He was not blocked into him and he had time to avoid any contact. That is the rule at all levels!!!!! (Maybe not the new A-11 Federation )

Originally Posted by zm1283

The holding call against Roderick Hood at the start of the 4th quarter was awful.

I do not remember the play and honestly do not care.

Originally Posted by zm1283

Nobody has explained why the final "fumble" by Warner wasn't reviewed on the field. You all keep claiming it was a fumble, but how would the officials on the field know without replay?

Why should anyone tell you, you already know the rules and understand the philosophies.

The official answer, the replay officials already reviewed the play and did not need to take a different look. It was a fumble, the ball was knocked out of his hand. His arm going forward has nothing to do with a pass when you lose control of the ball. It is called "empty hands." It is not only a common call, but not one that always needs a review. But you knew that right?

Originally Posted by zm1283

Keep up with the character attacks about age, etc. It makes you guys look more desperate.

Then stop acting like a dumbazz. When you get an explanation you claim you know more than anyone here. And you have never officiated a mini mite game before.

[Welpe]

I'm going to say this and be done with this foolishness. The crew did not have a perfect game. If you take the time to actually read some of the officiating forums, you will see this is discussed amongst officials.

You can even feel you had a lousy game, but as an official, to come onto a forum for a sport you do not officiate and to show a total lack of respect for your fellow officials is reprehensible. There are games I feel that NBA officials did not have a great game, I believe that game six of the 2002 Western Conference finals was a good example of such. I'm not about to jump on the basketball forum and start slamming the officials, calling them incompetent, etc. We should be above that and show some professional courtesey where it is due.

I doubt this will sink in, but I am hoping that somewhere it will eventually. We take enough garbage from fans, coaches and even players, we don't need to deal with it from each other. Hopefully as you grow as an official, you will come to realize this.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I'm going to say this and be done with this foolishness. The crew did not have a perfect game. If you take the time to actually read some of the officiating forums, you will see this is discussed amongst officials.

You can even feel you had a lousy game, but as an official, to come onto a forum for a sport you do not officiate and to show a total lack of respect for your fellow officials is reprehensible. There are games I feel that NBA officials did not have a great game, I believe that game six of the 2002 Western Conference finals was a good example of such. I'm not about to jump on the basketball forum and start slamming the officials, calling them incompetent, etc. We should be above that and show some professional courtesey where it is due.

I doubt this will sink in, but I am hoping that somewhere it will eventually. We take enough garbage from fans, coaches and even players, we don't need to deal with it from each other. Hopefully as you grow as an official, you will come to realize this.

Fair enough. It may not even be the officials themselves, although I do think NFL officials are the most inconsistent of any in pro sports.

I'm even more upset with the NFL itself for what it has become. The roughing the passer rules are ridiculous. The celebration rules are ridiculous. That doesn't even scratch the surface. As I said in my last reply, instant replay is a joke.

Believe it or not, I'm not the only person who thinks the NFL favors certain teams over others.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Believe it or not, I'm not the only person who thinks the NFL favors certain teams over others.

Wow, you admit that you are apart of a bunch of idiots.

• I guess the NFL told Kurt Warner to throw an interception on the goal line?
  
• I guess the NFL was favoring a team they took a TD away from (they only got 3)?
  
• I guess the NFL told Samari Rolle (on the sideline and in the 3 yard belt) to run into Larry Fitzgerald so he could not make a tackle on the Harrison before he got to the goal line?
  
• I bet the NFL decided to give the eventual winning team a holding call that not only gave the losing team 2 points, but they gave them a holding call the first play of the final drive (big penalty)?
  
• I guess the NFL told the Cardinals not to tackle and allowed the eventual MVP run 30-40 yards untouched before being tackled inside the 10?
  
• I guess the NFL told the MVP to catch the ball with 3 people guarding him?
  
• I guess the NFL told the Cardinals to have Fitzgerald score with over 2 minutes to go in the game?
  
• I guess the NFL told the Cardinals to miss tackles and not get a hand on Big Ben when he moved in the pocket and made big passes?
  
• I guess the NFL told the Cardinals not to block and allow their QB to make a throw without being hit?
  
• I bet the NFL is at fault for Warner not having the ability as Big Ben to get away from the rush?

I could mention about 10 other things. You are right, the fix was in?

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Believe it or not, I'm not the only person who thinks the NFL favors certain teams over others.

You realize you're accusing the officials of cheating here, right?

[waltjp]

What I find funny is that there are a couple of posters here who are complaining about the calls in the game. They've already made up their mind that they're correct, despite any attempt by others to explain the correct rulings and interpretations to them. The antagonists then claim that we're all officials and will blindly defend our brethren.

The truth is that if you read through this and other threads you'll see where we can be critical of our brothers. Recent threads about Ed Hochuli and Don Cherry come to mind.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I'm even more upset with the NFL itself for what it has become. The roughing the passer rules are ridiculous. The celebration rules are ridiculous. That doesn't even scratch the surface. As I said in my last reply, instant replay is a joke.

Then why are you complaining on an Officials' Forum?
No official in any sport writes the rules or devises instant replay.

That is the province of team and league management.

After all your whining the bottom line is you don't like the NFL very much.

Yet you admit to watching 10-12 NFL games a week.

Either you are a masochist or you choose to deny your real reason for complaining:

Your team didn't win.

[kdf5]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Then why are you complaining on an Officials' Forum?
No official in any sport writes the rules or devises instant replay.

That is the province of team and league management.

After all your whining the bottom line is you don't like the NFL very much.

Yet you admit to watching 10-12 NFL games a week.

Either you are a masochist or you choose to deny your real reason for complaining:

Your team didn't win.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!!

[dahoopref]

To me, it looks like Harrison was upset for the attempted block on his knees by Francisco. I've seen players get thrown out of an NFL or NCAA game for far less things. I would not have been surprised if Harrison had been ejected if the officials thought his first strike was a punch. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCrAbErvQ54&eurl

[Adam]

Peter King seems to have reached the same opinion as the majority here.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If it was weak, change the rule. You cannot hit the holder ever on your own no matter when it happens or how it happens. He was not blocked into him and he had time to avoid any contact. That is the rule at all levels!!!!! (Maybe not the new A-11 Federation )

Wrong play. Dansby was called for roughing the passer when he knocked Ben down.

I do not remember the play and honestly do not care.

Ticky-tack defensive holding call when the DB made a great play.

The official answer, the replay officials already reviewed the play and did not need to take a different look. It was a fumble, the ball was knocked out of his hand. His arm going forward has nothing to do with a pass when you lose control of the ball. It is called "empty hands." It is not only a common call, but not one that always needs a review. But you knew that right?

Translation: The NFL looked at it and realized they might have to overturn the biggest call of the game, so they tell everyone they reviewed it upstairs and called it good.

Side note: Instant replay is a freaking joke.

Then stop acting like a dumbazz. When you get an explanation you claim you know more than anyone here. And you have never officiated a mini mite game before.

You don't know that.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Wrong play. Dansby was called for roughing the passer when he knocked Ben down.

I did not like the call either, but that does not mean it was not correct. The NFL does not want unnecessary hits on QBs and I saw that same call made multiple times all year. That is what the NFL wants, that is what the NFL gets. Defensive player should have known that. Everyone seems to know that (but you of course).

Originally Posted by zm1283

Ticky-tack defensive holding call when the DB made a great play.

I do not know if it was or if it was not. You cannot grab, contact or push a receiver after 5 yards. I saw that call all year-round.

Originally Posted by zm1283

Translation: The NFL looked at it and realized they might have to overturn the biggest call of the game, so they tell everyone they reviewed it upstairs and called it good.

Side note: Instant replay is a freaking joke.

It really does not matter what you think the translation was, it was the right call. You do not need to review something that is correct in the first place. And you have to have control of the ball to be considered a pass. The ball cannot be on your arm, it must be in your hand.

Originally Posted by zm1283

You don't know that.

And if you did, what qualifications does that give you?

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

The holding call against Roderick Hood at the start of the 4th quarter was awful.

Are you referring to the play where Hood grabbed Hines Ward by the back of the jersey at least 2 different times?