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Old Tue Nov 11, 2008, 02:55pm
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Yes, it's a judgement call. And that's why we get the big bucks. In this particular situation, you'd have a real tough time convincing me that it wasn't intentional. I'd be starting the clock on the snap. Get that punt team out coach.
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Old Tue Nov 11, 2008, 03:45pm
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On the snap.
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Old Tue Nov 11, 2008, 04:33pm
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REPLY: Agree. That clock would never start on the ready if I was wearing white. Mike L. said it best: "Get out the punt team, coach."
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Old Tue Nov 11, 2008, 11:00pm
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My HS coach did (and still does) uses this tactic on naive officials. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Additionally, (non-official's opinion) you should read what "mode" the offense is in (say, inside 4 minutes or so left in the game). If the offense is in "hurry up and score" mode, start the clock according to the rules. If the offense is in "eat up clock" mode, start it on the snap.

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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 12:03am
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My HS coach did (and still does) uses this tactic on naive officials. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
In my opinion, this is a coach with poor morals. He will do it if he can get away with it. Great lesson to teach his players, who unfortunately may feel they should "do whatever they can get away with" in other area of life as they get older.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 12:39am
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In my opinion, this is a coach with poor morals.
In other words, "a coach?"

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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 11:42am
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Team-A's delay foul... I'm not winding the clock at all.
Let'm false start all they want after that.. The clock is not going to be run until they snap it.
The Referee and "crew" have to recognize this delay was for one purpose and to invoke the clock rule exception as I call it right then and there.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 11:58am
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In my opinion, this is a coach with poor morals. He will do it if he can get away with it. Great lesson to teach his players, who unfortunately may feel they should "do whatever they can get away with" in other area of life as they get older.
Would you say the same thing about a coach who teaches his kids to hold until the officials call it? I actually think that is a decent technique for coaches to see how technical the crew will be. Push the envelope and find out what you can get away with.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 01:02pm
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Would you say the same thing about a coach who teaches his kids to hold until the officials call it? I actually think that is a decent technique for coaches to see how technical the crew will be. Push the envelope and find out what you can get away with.
I'd have to agree with this one. Even though I'm an official and not a coach, had I been a coach I'd probably push the envelope and see what I get away with. It all comes down to what a crew calls week by week and if you have crews in your area who are not consistent with others, the coach will try and take advantages of differences, whether it be this or if a player doesn't have correct padding around a cast, doctors note, etc.
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Old Thu Nov 13, 2008, 03:07pm
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Would you say the same thing about a coach who teaches his kids to hold until the officials call it? I actually think that is a decent technique for coaches to see how technical the crew will be. Push the envelope and find out what you can get away with.
Have to strongly disagree. As a former coach and currently an official, I believe that I am here to teach more than X's and O's but how to handle life. Those crooks on Wall Street must have had the above-mentioned type of coach as a role model when they were young.

As for the original post, after the first play, the clock won't ever start until there is a live snap. False starts are dead ball fouls and there won't even be 1 second allowed to tick.
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