How Do You Penalize Chipping by the Offense?

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Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

I'm advocating seeing one thing well rather than trying to see two things: the foul and the ball's becoming dead.

You're advocating making one call regardless of what really happens: "The fact that it is unnecessary roughness means that it didn't have an effect on the play, so if there's any way you could see it as occurring after the ball became dead, that's how I would." If calling it like it is becomes a burden then maybe it's time to hand the flag to someone else.

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

In the great majority of cases, a dead ball personal foul by the offense hurts them more than a live ball foul would. Are you saying you should skew the calls by favoring seeing it as a live ball foul just in those situations where it negates a long gain? If you did, don't you think it would encourage them to wait until the ball was clearly dead to get in a cheap shot, and wouldn't that be a bad development?

I can't believe you think allowing a score to stand by calling the earhole shot a dead ball foul is less of a hardship on A than negating the score. I'm saying KNOW what happens in the order it happens. That's your job.