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Old Tue Oct 09, 2007, 09:31pm
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In Ohio the linesman is REQUIRED to bring the rule and case books onto the field. The chain crew holds onto it.

Pretty sure that one gets ignored on a regular basis. I asked a linesman to check his casebook on the rule about Low blocks in shotgun formation. He didn't have one, even to look at in the locker room at halftime.
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Old Wed Oct 10, 2007, 05:21am
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In Ohio the linesman is REQUIRED to bring the rule and case books onto the field. The chain crew holds onto it.

Pretty sure that one gets ignored on a regular basis. I asked a linesman to check his casebook on the rule about Low blocks in shotgun formation. He didn't have one, even to look at in the locker room at halftime.
I think this state should rename themselves Oiho - because they're thinking backwards!

Leave the damn book in the locker room!

Seriously - I wonder if something happened that the SA figured the way to show progress was to bring the book to the sideline. Perhaps a ruling was made in a state final where the crew didn't know the correct ruling.
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Old Wed Oct 10, 2007, 01:15pm
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hypothetical situation:

You walk onto a plane and you see the pilot reading "Flying 747's for Dummies"
You might think "this guy doesn't know what he's doing".

Three hours later the right engine goes out. The pilot pulls out the manual and restarts the engine. You think "thank god he had the manual".

My point is I have never met another official who has not misapplied a rule. If you haven't you are either a) a liar or b) a sure shot for the NFL.

As previously stated the rule book is not for the coach it is for the official's reference. You don't need to pull it out to prove anything. The only time an official would need to bring it out is if he was unsure about a rule. To be honest, I don't think that the coach's know that we have it.

To those of you that say "know the rules". No joke. If you never need it what have you lost. If you do need it, it's there.

To those with the "because I said so " attitude, you are part of the reason coaches hate and do not respect us.
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Old Wed Oct 10, 2007, 10:10pm
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I think this state should rename themselves Oiho - because they're thinking backwards!
I think that the head of our officials knows what he is doing.
If not, I don't think that he would be in the Big Ten.
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2007, 08:24am
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My crew has a simple solution to questions from coaches who don't "believe" us on a rule. After the game, if the coach approaches us, my white hat will meet the coach near the locker rooms, hand him a business card, and ask that he email with the question and then we'll get back to him (the coach) with a response with the rule references, etc. We've only had to do this once a year, if even that. This year, we had to pacify a coach who thought that ANY contact with the head was illegal (this was after his quarterback got sacked while crouching down to absorb the blow and the defender was on top of him in such a way his arms were wrapped around the QB's head as they were going down).
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2007, 08:36am
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One thing I do have on the field with me is a laminated card from the rule book which has a list of all the penalties and yardages, LOD, AFD, etc. That has come in handy more than a time or two, I'm glad (and sorry) to say.
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Old Thu Oct 11, 2007, 09:14pm
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I think that the head of our officials knows what he is doing.
If not, I don't think that he would be in the Big Ten.
Does the NFL have a rule book at the sides?
Does the CFL have a rule book at the sides?
Does the AFL have a rule book at the sides?
Does the Pac10 have a rule book at the sides?
Does the SEC have a rule book at the sides?
Does the Big10 have a rule book at the sides?
Does the Big12 have a rule book at the sides?
Does the ACC have a rule book at the sides?
Does the MAC have a rule book at the sides?
Does NY have a rule book at the sides?
MA?
PA?
TX?
CA?
Of the 50 states, how many mandate a rule book at the sides?
I bet Oiho might be the only state. I don't care what your Big10 ref says.... he still ****s every day like I do.
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2007, 08:56am
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Lightbulb Ohio Ruling

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Does the CFL have a rule book at the sides?
We allow touchbacks, mid field is the 50 yard line and call it ham. I'll be proud to be different. We have a procedure that works fine if the situation arises to address the rule.
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2007, 01:17pm
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We allow touchbacks, mid field is the 50 yard line and call it ham. I'll be proud to be different. We have a procedure that works fine if the situation arises to address the rule.
At least you know how to follow properly and use a lightbulb.

Funny you mention touchbacks, because we have them as well. Maybe not in all the same circumstances as the US game, but we do have them.

Like the guy earlier said, that's great that Oiho has their own procedure. Their officials should follow it.
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Old Fri Oct 12, 2007, 02:46pm
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Does the NFL have a rule book at the sides?
Does the CFL have a rule book at the sides?
Does the AFL have a rule book at the sides?
Does the Pac10 have a rule book at the sides?
Does the SEC have a rule book at the sides?
Does the Big10 have a rule book at the sides?
Does the Big12 have a rule book at the sides?
Does the ACC have a rule book at the sides?
Does the MAC have a rule book at the sides?

I don't know, but they all have a RESOURCE in the Replay official who I would bet has access to the book. Does this RESOURCE diminish your integrity and lead to the destruction of your control of the game? NO. Isn't this a far more intrusive attack on your power than the presence of a stinkin Rule Book?



Does NY have a rule book at the sides? Don't know
MA? Don't know
PA? DON"T KNOW
TX? MOST TEXANS CAN"T READ
CA? WHO CARES!
Of the 50 states, how many mandate a rule book at the sides?
I bet Oiho might be the only state. I don't care what your Big10 ref says.... he still ****s every day like I do.


He's a light eater. Might be every other day.
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