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Skijunki07 · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:22pm

The receiving team's player fumbled the ball, which was recovered by the kicking team's player. But, there was a facemask against the receiving team right before the fumble. So, the receiving team's player did not complete a run. Does the facemask call nullify the fumble?

Skijunki07 · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Sep 11, 2016, 11:05pm

Got it figured out. Thanks for your help, guys...appreciate it.

jTheUmp · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:24am

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Originally Posted by Skijunki07

The receiving team's player fumbled the ball, which was recovered by the kicking team's player. But, there was a facemask against the receiving team right before the fumble. So, the receiving team's player did not complete a run. Does the facemask call nullify the fumble?

There are several ways a run can end... the runner fumbling the ball is one of those ways.

HLin NC · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:20am

K did not recover the ball with "clean hands". This would be one of the reasons why we bean bag a fumble.

ajmc · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:50am

Something that reads so clearly, that causes a lot of confusion is "a kick remains a kick, until it's no longer a kick" (which means:" a kick remains a kick until someone/anyone POSSESSES it, or it's blown dead. NFHS 2-34-1.

No matter who, or how many different people touch/muff a kick, it remains a kick until it's actually POSSESSED. While a kick is still a kick it is a LOOSE BALL, and any fouls that occur are enforced as such.

The key to your question, aside from who actually grabbed a facemask, is whether that happened DURING the kick, or after it was RECOVERED (which requires POSSESSION, not just touching/muffing), and would then be enforced from the end of the related run (the fumble) rather than the previous spot.

The "Kicking Rules" are an area worthy of extensive review & discussion.

Skijunki07 · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 12, 2016, 04:45pm

AJMC...the facemask was after the receiving team's player caught the ball and before the fumble. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff

CT1 · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:52pm

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Originally Posted by Skijunki07

AJMC...the facemask was after the receiving team's player caught the ball and before the fumble. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff

The receiving team gets to keep the ball, and the FM penalty will be marked off from the end of the run -- the spot where he fumbled.

Skijunki07 · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Sep 12, 2016, 08:44pm

Cool...Thanks.

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