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Is your R counting Team A players? If he is, he should be signaling his count. So, the easiest way to do it is look for the R's signal, and then count 4 players in the backfield. Quote:
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Thanks man.
LINING UP OVER SNAPPER 20. No defensive player may be lined up over the snapper and on the line of scrimmage if there is no player in position to take a hand-to-hand snap. The restriction is not in effect if an offensive player shifts to a position to take a hand to- hand snap. A defensive player lined up over the snapper must be positioned 5 yards off his line of scrimmage regardless of the offensive team’s formation until the ball is snapped. Who is the primary official to call this. 5 yards seems like a lot.
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Could it be a youth rule?
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Kid was pulled down by grabbing the other right at the top of the numbers. Not even close. Illegal Horse-Collar Tackle Rule 9-4-3 No player or non-player shall grab the inside back or side collar of the shoulder pads or jersey of the runner and subsequently pull (backward or sideward) that opponent to he ground (Horse-collar). The horse collar foul is enforced s a live-ball foul.
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That is an NFL rule or form of it, yes....and what some youth coaches around here thought was gospel in their ruleset until we squared them up on it.
Roughing the center/snapper to these guys meant that you couldn't line up over him either. If I had a dollar for every "they touched our center" back when I did these games, I could have a lake house up North.
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Youth rules are usually local adaptations of one of the major rule codes. You need to seek guidance from your local officials as none of us know which rules set you a using.
There is no regulation in NFHS regarding where to line up over the snapper. A B/R player may not charge directly into him, in a scrimmage kick formation, until he has an opportunity to recover from the snap or when he moves to participate in the play. |
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(FED) The 32, with loss of down.
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And that's the thing...he CAN be contacted, he just can't be blown up with his head down....B needs to let him protect himself and get his head up or avoid major contact while unprotected (head down). Many of these guys would teach their C's to snap the ball on scrimmage kick formations and keep their head down and then if a guy shot the gap and bumped their kid in the hip or leg, they wanted 15....that's not what the rule is or is there for. Roughing the center/snapper (FED/NFHS 9-4-6) 15 yards from previous and first down. Horse collar tackle is also a FED/NFHS rule (9-4-3k) and variations exist in NFL/NCAA/CFL) 15 yards Good luck.
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