Methinks we can....

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by ajmc

I guess, sometimes even reading EXACTLY what the book says doesn't help. At any rate, this poor horse is so dead, it deserves to be left to RIP

The book says exactly what Rich says that it does. All but one enforcement applies to all fouls. It's right there in the text you quoted.

But by all means, don't just actually admit you might be wrong, continue to bluster on about it for paragraphs.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Welpe

The book says exactly what Rich says that it does. All but one enforcement applies to all fouls. It's right there in the text you quoted.

But by all means, don't just actually admit you might be wrong, continue to bluster on about it for paragraphs.

On a scale of 1 - 1 Billion, where would you rank the significance of your argument, maybe a 3?

The original question related to defensive fouls behind the LOS being enforced either from the spot of the foul (NFHS), or the previous spot (NCAA). If you can force yourself to be honest, there is NOTHING WHATSOEVER about "All-But-One" that relates to Defensive fouls, other than they DON'T APPLY.

This has nothing to do with "admitting anything wrong". If you want to argue the meaning of "ALL" (taken totally out of context) knock yourself out, but you'd be a lot more challenged by a language expert, or someone else who just might care, even a little bit.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by ajmc

The original question related to defensive fouls behind the LOS being enforced either from the spot of the foul (NFHS), or the previous spot (NCAA).

Irrelevant to my post. I'll be charitable and say you misspoke insisting that all-but-one only applies in one situation. Everyone else is simply telling you that all-but-one applies to all fouls. And it does, the rules you quoted say as much.

If you can force yourself to be honest,

Do not question my integrity again.

there is NOTHING WHATSOEVER about "All-But-One" that relates to Defensive fouls, other than they DON'T APPLY.

Where are fouls by the defense enforced from? The basic spot you say? You mean that it fits the definition of all-but-one, which is all fouls, except a foul by the offense behind the basic spot, are enforced from the basic spot?

This has nothing to do with "admitting anything wrong".

Sure it does. You made a statement that was flat out wrong, got called on it, and now you can't crawdad your way away from it fast enough.

Just so you know, the NCAA equivalent is the 3 and 1 principle and it's exactly the same as the all-but-one principle. The 3 refers to the number of types of fouls that are enforced from the basic spot. Fouls by the defense in front of the basic spot, behind the basic spot and fouls by the offense beyond the basic spot.

It's exactly the same. Your arguing against it doesn't make it so.