New NFHS Mechanics?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

The only "change" is that the universal signal that everyone used indicating a thrower can run the endline is now official.

It's been an official IAABO signal since 2009-10. But, like BktBallRef stated, it's been an unofficial signal, for many officials, not just for IAABO officials, for a lot longer than that. We were using it, here in my little corner of Connecticut, before there was such a thing as official IAABO signals; back when IAABO guys, and gals, were still using NFHS mechanics, and signals (without an official run the endline signal); also known as the good old days. Now we're all legitimate signalers, not NFHS bastard signalers.

[OKREF]

I've been using it for 14 years.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I've been using it for 14 years.

Maybe we can be cellmates in NFHS prison? I bet that I can sharpen the extra whistle in my pocket into a shiv. I wonder what the weather's like in Indianapolis?

You know, it may not be too late to delete your post, and the evidence?

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I've been using it for 14 years.

Only 14? -- I remember HS refs using that signal back when I played in the early 80s

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Only 14? -- I remember HS refs using that signal back when I played in the early 80s

So do I, however I wasn't officiating those games, hence the statement "I've been using...."

[BillyMac]

From the IAABO Mechanics Manual:

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I've been using it for 14 years.

I have been using it for 50 years and I have only been officiating for 44 years.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's been an official IAABO signal since 2009-10. But, like BktBallRef stated, it's been an unofficial signal, for many officials, not just for IAABO officials, for a lot longer than that. We were using it, here in my little corner of Connecticut, before there was such a thing as official IAABO signals; back when IAABO guys, and gals, were still using NFHS mechanics, and signals (without an official run the endline signal); also known as the good old days. Now we're all legitimate signalers, not NFHS bastard signalers.

I haven't seen the new signal's definition yet but there has been an official NFHS run the endline signal for a long time. It isn't like we haven't had one. Are they just changing the nature of the signal?

See http://www.gccoa.us/basketball/docum...%20Signals.pdf Signal #23.

Or #18 in this version:

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

... there has been an official NFHS run the endline signal for a long time.

Nice post. Thanks.

Then what's the change?

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Nice post. Thanks.

Then what's the change?

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.

Looks like they're revising the signal to be upwardly oriented AND specifying that it will be used at the time of the stoppage, not just at the time play is to resume.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Looks like they're revising the signal to be upwardly oriented AND specifying that it will be used at the time of the stoppage, not just at the time play is to resume.

Sounds exactly like what we've been doing....for as long as I can remember.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Sounds exactly like what we've been doing....for as long as I can remember.

Yes. Even though the book has the lower signal, many here (including me) do it upwards and more visible and when the whistle blows to confirm with the crew how we will be resuming.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Even though the book has the lower signal, many here (including me) do it upward and more visible ...

This.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Officials Signal Chart and Officials Manual: Establish a signal to be used after a basket is made and there is a stoppage in play. The signal is used by the officials to indicate the team inbounding the ball may run the baseline. The signal will be executed by extending the arm laterally, bending the elbow at a 90-degree angle, moving the hand and forearm from the elbow in a waving motion horizontally along the end line. A new picture will need to be added to the signal chart.

Endline. They're allowed to run the endline. This, by itself, is not that big a deal. But it's one more in a very long line of examples that show the rules-ignorance of the members of the Rules Committee. We get rules references with dots instead of dashes; we have case plays that blatantly contradict the rule cited; and we get terms that don't correspond to their actual definition. The baseline is on the backboard, not on the playing court. But nobody reads Rule 1, including the Rules Committee, apparently.

Now get off my lawn!

Holy crap, I've turned into Jurassic!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Endline. They're allowed to run the endline. This, by itself, is not that big a deal. But it's one more in a very long line of examples that show the rules-ignorance of the members of the Rules Committee. ...

Distinction without a difference. In a completely different league than "reach" or "over-the-back" or "set".