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Old Fri Apr 24, 2015, 10:53am
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I guess the ref would try to determine the 'intention' of the foul--was it done as part of a strategy (i.e. stop the clock, put a poor foul shooter on the line, etc...) or was the foul a consequence of normal competitive defensive play--in either case it would obviously be a 'judgement call'--which always opens up a whole nother can of worms.
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2015, 10:58am
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I guess the ref would try to determine the 'intention' of the foul--was it done as part of a strategy (i.e. stop the clock, put a poor foul shooter on the line, etc...) or was the foul a consequence of normal competitive defensive play--in either case it would obviously be a 'judgement call'--which always opens up a whole nother can of worms.
NBA officials go through a lot more intensive training than any of us. I have no doubt that they are all on the same page in regards to how to officiate this type of play.
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2015, 02:24pm
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At minimum I can agree with you that at least all the crew members would "agree" with each other if publically and directly questioned by the coach, media, or peradventure their assignor/commissioner. However, given the "suspect nature" of the call which is a natural consequence of using "judgement" to rule on the play, it's quite a stretch to think that all crew members would've "judged" said play the same--regardless of their extent of training.
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2015, 02:51pm
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How about the Curry 3 with 11 seconds left in regulation to cut it to 107-105? An absolute travel under basketball rules, but was not sure about its legality in the NBA.

Video would help, of course, but he pump faked, then took a full step to the right, lifting and putting his right foot down first, then doing the same with his left (pivot) foot. Replays were weak and not so conveniently left the feet out of the frame, but it was obvious enough live.

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Old Sat Apr 25, 2015, 12:22am
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How about the Curry 3 with 11 seconds left in regulation to cut it to 107-105? An absolute travel under basketball rules, but was not sure about its legality in the NBA.

Video would help, of course, but he pump faked, then took a full step to the right, lifting and putting his right foot down first, then doing the same with his left (pivot) foot. Replays were weak and not so conveniently left the feet out of the frame, but it was obvious enough live.

Any insight?
And the NBA has now said that Curry was fouled on his game-tying 3pt shot in the last seconds of regulation.
NBA says Warriors guard Stephen Curry was fouled on tying 3-pointer in Game 3

With all the video reviews that it does have, the NBA makes no provisions for getting a foul call correct on potentially the games last shot. What a joke! If an official were to get blocked out the team just has to live with it on a jumpshot, but if the play is an OOB that isn't seen, then video can be consulted. Nonsense.

In other news the League released its new slogan: NBA basketball -- it's just entertainment for silly rich people.
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Old Sat Apr 25, 2015, 12:48am
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The NBA said the 'away from the play' foul should have been a common foul. That looked like a textbook 'away from the play foul' which is why I am against the rule in the first place and definitely expanding it for the whole game as Silver wants to do. No one agrees on what 'away from the play' actually means.
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Old Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:33am
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With all the video reviews that it does have, the NBA makes no provisions for getting a foul call correct on potentially the games last shot. What a joke! If an official were to get blocked out the team just has to live with it on a jumpshot, but if the play is an OOB that isn't seen, then video can be consulted. Nonsense.
Is there ANY video review in any sport that puts judgment calls into play. All the examples I can think of involve things that are objective calls (in/out, restraining arc, who touched, did the throw beat the runner, etc.).
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Old Wed Apr 29, 2015, 12:57am
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Is there ANY video review in any sport that puts judgment calls into play. All the examples I can think of involve things that are objective calls (in/out, restraining arc, who touched, did the throw beat the runner, etc.).
Catch or no catch in the NFL if the play involves controlling the ball.
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