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Old Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:59pm
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I have a question after I was playing a pickup game and was told I traveled. I am under the impression while dribbling you can take two steps after you pick the ball up, after that not sure. So this is the situation. I drove in to the lane and took my two steps. My right leg was my first and then my left. The way I understood, my left foot is my pivot foot so when got to my left foot I pump faked then layed it in. I was told if I drive and take my two steps I have to go up or else it is a travel. Any info would be nice.
Same thing happened to me not long ago. Well, as far as I'm concerned, traveling violation occurs when you illegally move your pivot foot or taking at least 3 steps without dribbling the ball. That's the same rule I held on to ever since I was a kiddo.
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Same thing happened to me not long ago. Well, as far as I'm concerned, traveling violation occurs when you illegally move your pivot foot or taking at least 3 steps without dribbling the ball. That's the same rule I held on to ever since I was a kiddo.

How many steps you take has nothing to do with whether you traveled or not. You can take one step and travel.
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Old Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:44am
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How many steps you take has nothing to do with whether you traveled or not. You can take one step and travel.
Which is why I can say I am a pure amateur when it comes to basketball. hehe. So, on what scenario can you say "You can take one step and travel."? Thanks in advance. Sorry if you find the question too amateur-ish.
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Old Wed Apr 15, 2015, 12:53am
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Which is why I can say I am a pure amateur when it comes to basketball. hehe. So, on what scenario can you say "You can take one step and travel."? Thanks in advance. Sorry if you find the question too amateur-ish.
If you catch/gather the ball with one foot on the floor and then make a jump stop/land on two feet, you aren't allowed to pivot. Picking up either foot and returning it to the floor before shooting or passing would be a travel.

But this is one of a handful of travel rules that may as well not exist as it isn't called at any level of basketball
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Old Wed Apr 15, 2015, 01:13am
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But this is one of a handful of travel rules that may as well not exist as it isn't called at any level of basketball
Yeah maybe that's one of the reasons why not everyone knows about this rule. Thanks for the enlightenment, bro.
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If you catch/gather the ball with one foot on the floor and then make a jump stop/land on two feet, you aren't allowed to pivot. Picking up either foot and returning it to the floor before shooting or passing would be a travel.

But this is one of a handful of travel rules that may as well not exist as it isn't called at any level of basketball
I disagree. I see it get called every time I see it happen. Around here, though, most players know better.

I do, however, also notice that most officials will give the benefit of the doubt to the player when it's unclear whether he gathered the dribble before or after he jumped.

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Yeah maybe that's one of the reasons why not everyone knows about this rule. Thanks for the enlightenment, bro.
Anyone who has officiated more than about 10 games should know this rule.
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Old Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:03am
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Which is why I can say I am a pure amateur when it comes to basketball. hehe. So, on what scenario can you say "You can take one step and travel."? Thanks in advance. Sorry if you find the question too amateur-ish.
Airborne player catches the ball and lands right foot, then left foot.

He then steps with his right foot. Traveling.


Traveling is about moving the pivot foot outside the prescribed limits while holding the ball.
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Traveling is about moving the pivot foot outside the prescribed limits while holding the ball.
Succinct. Nothing about counting steps.
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Airborne player catches the ball and lands right foot, then left foot.

He then steps with his right foot. Traveling.


Traveling is about moving the pivot foot outside the prescribed limits while holding the ball.
Makes sense to me now. Thanks.
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Old Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:52am
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I agree it's not about number of steps, but this is still illustrative of the joke that is the NBE:

Dwyane Wade Doesn't Get Called for 7-Step Travel | Bleacher Report
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That video [in above-cited post] is a great "training aid" for those of you refs that want to work NBA games---it really shows how to 'pass' on typical traveling violations--which is a proficiency that must be assiduosly developed if you are to ref in the NBA.
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How many steps you take has nothing to do with whether you traveled or not. You can take one step and travel.
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Airborne player catches the ball and lands right foot, then left foot.

He then steps with his right foot. Traveling.
In your scenario the landing of the left foot would be the 'first' step and the subsequent step with the right would be the 'second', illegal step.

But we shouldn't even be talking about steps because that's not NFHS and NCAA rule book language, right??
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