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Ohio State vs VCU (Video 3/3)
Charge and Block calls on consecutive possessions by Ohio State. Between 6-5 minute mark.
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Vacuum Ohio state offensive flagrant 1 after review.
5 minutes left in the game defender takes an elbow to the head trying to block a shot. No call at the time but play was stopped for a TO and he was bleeding a lot. Can you all walk me through the administration including differences in college from HS in regards to substitutions with injury, flagrant fouls, etc.
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If you call an INT or Flagrant then you have to deal with the blood before the free throws. The coach can either take a timeout to keep his player in the game to shoot the free throws, or select a sub from the bench who will shoot the free throws. Same is true if you don't call anything and then notice the blood -- timeout to keep the player in the game or immediate sub. |
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Provided there was an INT foul called on the floor in HS, I think (sadly, but factually) you'd have to count the basket before marching to the other end to shoot the INT foul FTs. Not an issue in NCAAM because a foul by an airborne shooter can never be a PC foul; score the basket regardless. But what about NCAAW? Do you treat a FF1 on this play the same way you do an INT in HS, i.e. the basket is good even though had it been a PC foul it wouldn't have been? |
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Now had the ball entered the basket first somehow, and then the foul by the airborne shooter, now what do you have under the various rule sets? |
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#1...Block. It was very close and I wouldn't complain either way. I think the defender was still moving laterally into the path after the shooter left the floor.
#2...Block. Defender was moving towards the opponent at the time of contact. But, again, this was close. He wasn't moving forward much, but he was moving forward.
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#1) Beautiful mechanics and patience by the officials involved. PC was the right call.
#2) Good movement by the Lead to see the play. 50/50 #3) I could be talked into a FF1 upon review. Or live with the no-call.
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Under NFHS rules a player control foul MUST be a common foul. An intentional personal foul is not a common foul. Therefore, if the try is already released at the time of the intentional foul by the airborne shooter, then the basket would count. |
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One point 3, the officials went to review and assessed a FF1
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