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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 10:02am
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Ohio State vs Penn State Offensive Foul Thoughts? (Video)

Thoughts on this call???? That's bad at any level

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...004334735.html
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 10:22am
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I thought the foul was called on red. If it's on white, then I have no idea what the ref saw. Maybe he didn't like JoePa?
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 10:26am
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As I posted a few weeks ago, another call where an official allows himself to get fooled by blowing a whistle on the feigned reaction of a player, instead of actually seeing the contact.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 10:48am
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The foul was on the white player. Obviously #23 Red pushes the guy on purpose to prevent the breakaway.
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Not only that, I felt it was a flop or embellishment on the PSU player. But if anything I am going to call, it would have been a FF1 on the OSU player. Just wow I guess.

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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 12:15pm
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As I posted a few weeks ago, another call where an official allows himself to get fooled by blowing a whistle on the feigned reaction of a player, instead of actually seeing the contact.
Apparently, the foul was called on the player doing the reacting....even worse.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 12:41pm
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 12:57pm
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Not only that, I felt it was a flop or embellishment on the PSU player. But if anything I am going to call, it would have been a FF1 on the OSU player. Just wow I guess.

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This brings up a good point. Ignoring the bad call, what do you do here when you observe the shove by Red? The breakaway player was not yet in the act of shooting, but he's got a clear path to a highlight-reel dunk.

For me, if it's not flagrant, no call. But....it's a clear attempt to make the ball dead before the try begins, so reluctantly I have to call a F1 here (intentional in NFHS). I would hope for PSU that two shots and the ball would garner at least if not more points than a single breakaway field goal.

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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 01:21pm
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I think the official called the foul for the offensive player sliding into the defenders path illegally screening him. The shove by the defender was a reaction to getting screened off.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 01:43pm
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This brings up a good point. Ignoring the bad call, what do you do here when you observe the shove by Red? The breakaway player was not yet in the act of shooting, but he's got a clear path to a highlight-reel dunk.

For me, if it's not flagrant, no call. But....it's a clear attempt to make the ball dead before the try begins, so reluctantly I have to call a F1 here (intentional in NFHS). I would hope for PSU that two shots and the ball would garner at least if not more points than a single breakaway field goal.

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If I blow the whistle to call a foul on Red, then it has to be FF1/Intentional.
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Old Thu Mar 05, 2015, 01:47pm
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I think the official called the foul for the offensive player sliding into the defenders path illegally screening him. The shove by the defender was a reaction to getting screened off.
I think your post is the epitome' of B1G Ten officiating homer-ism....LMAO

It's alright if one of your guys blows a call.
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But....it's a clear attempt to make the ball dead before the try begins, so reluctantly I have to call a F1 here (intentional in NFHS).
Disagree that "it's a clear attempt to make the ball dead".
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I think the official called the foul for the offensive player sliding into the defenders path illegally screening him. The shove by the defender was a reaction to getting screened off.
That might work if the screener had made contact first. From what I can see in the video, the first actual contact is the shove. It's possible they were watching for and anticipated an illegal screen here, but even if that's the case, they jumped the gun.
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I think the official called the foul for the offensive player sliding into the defenders path illegally screening him. The shove by the defender was a reaction to getting screened off.
That might be but they were a couple feet apart except for the defender's outstretched arm that was used to push the offensive player. It might have become an illegal screen eventually, but it didn't. Even if it did, I'd probably rule that shooter was far enough ahead that it was incidental.
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I think the official called the foul for the offensive player sliding into the defenders path illegally screening him. The shove by the defender was a reaction to getting screened off.
You're....kidding, right?
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