UCLA vs. SMU (Video)

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by AremRed

You can honestly look at the video and say that was going to be an airball had the defender not touched it? Looks clear to me it was going to hit the rim.

It may have grazed the rim. It was way long and way right. Zero chance of it going in. Horrible call with the benefit of replay.

Originally Posted by hbk314

Horrible call with the benefit of replay.

What do you mean by this statement? That play was not reviewable. Are you saying it should be?

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What do you mean by this statement? That play was not reviewable. Are you saying it should be?

I'm saying I have yet to see a replay after the fact that justifies it. I can see how it would be tough real-time.

[jpgc99]

What is the point of this thread? Are we using this play to get better or to take votes on "worst call of the tournament" - which is really, an absolutely ridiculous claim. I've been reading a long time, and although only recently began sporadic posting, often wonder how many people ragging on challenging calls like this are actually officials.

If we aren't using the video to get better, what is the point? Three pages of comments and very few takeaways or rules investigation.

[APG]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

What is the point of this thread? Are we using this play to get better or to take votes on "worst call of the tournament" - which is really, an absolutely ridiculous claim. I've been reading a long time, and although only recently began sporadic posting, often wonder how many people ragging on challenging calls like this are actually officials.

If we aren't using the video to get better, what is the point? Three pages of comments and very few takeaways or rules investigation.

hbk isn't an official

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by APG

hbk isn't an official

No surprising. I'm just waiting for someone to request that you post full game film from every tournament game with an excel spreadsheet of every play, graded by you as correct or incorrect.

I think video is an excellent tool and we all are in your debt for your work. but the requests seem to become less about learning and more about complaining around this time each year.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by APG

hbk isn't an official

He shows up to rip officials and entertain us.

[ODog]

Anyone have any insight as to what the C might've been indicating by his hands-apart "this many inches" signal right after the whistle blew?

Just like an NFL official demonstrating how short a team is of a first down after a measurement.

He did it right away and walked toward the table. I assumed he was saying "it was 6 inches wide of the hoop" and I anticipated a review, but that was before I knew this call is not reviewable.

Perhaps it was some way of saying, "I have a 3. Let's go to the monitor to confirm that" (which they did).

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by Rich

He shows up to rip officials and entertain us.

I'm not ripping officials in this case. I'm judging the call based on the rule posted in this thread.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

What is the point of this thread? Are we using this play to get better or to take votes on "worst call of the tournament" - which is really, an absolutely ridiculous claim. I've been reading a long time, and although only recently began sporadic posting, often wonder how many people ragging on challenging calls like this are actually officials.

If we aren't using the video to get better, what is the point? Three pages of comments and very few takeaways or rules investigation.

There really is nothing to learn from this play, unless someone wants to debate whether the Trail or Center should have made the call. Other than that, nothing.

[jpgc99]

My point - for this thread and many others that pop up in March - is that video can be extremely helpful for all of us to learn from. This video, and other requests I've seen posted already this year, do not generate discussion on rules or mechanics. It seems that some people only want to bash the tournament officials and only request clips of plays they deem are called incorrectly.

[mutantducky]

I'm one to be critical of refs when it is called for, but here I have to say it was a good call. Very tough one for SMU. I seriously doubt the ball had any chance of going in. But the defender should have left it alone.
I agree with Camron

Excellent call. The defender can't be so dumb as the play a ball coming down at the rim.

It didn't have a high chance of going in but I've seem some unlikely bounces over the years. Unless it is going to completely miss the rim, the defender has to leave it alone.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by hbk314

It may have grazed the rim. It was way long and way right. Zero chance of it going in. Horrible call with the benefit of replay.

So why they hell does the defender need to hit it?

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by Adam

So why they hell does the defender need to hit it?

Because it was such a horrible shot and had no chance to go in, he was rebounding it.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Because it was such a horrible shot and had no chance to go in, he was rebounding it.

From US Today, Yankcik Moriera's take on the play:

"It's all my fault," the SMU center said. "I should have let the ball hit the rim. I take the blame on myself. I shouldn't have made that mistake. As a senior" — his voice cracked— "you can't make those mistakes at the end of the game."

gotta respect the maturity