Shot clock error- correctable error?

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

...and for me to get the technical when they blew the call was not right.”

No, coach. A mistake by an official does not give you the right to act like an a-hole, and therefore deserve a technical foul.

Here's a lesson for younger officials... just because you make a mistake, it doesn't make it okay for a coach to act out. I may give him more rope to rant, but my mistake is not his "get out of jail free" card.

As for how to handle the shot clock, I wish I could say. We don't have one in Ohio, so I have no experience with it and couldn't say. Seems to me that one of the official's on the court should have known, and therefore whistled the play dead. But I don't know the rule.

BTW, a mistake made in the book or by the scorer's table can be fixed if an official has definite knowledge that an error was made. I would guess that, in this case, the mistake could be rectified if an official can say for sure that the shot clock would have reached zero.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

No, coach. A mistake by an official does not give you the right to act like an a-hole, and therefore deserve a technical foul.

Here's a lesson for younger officials... just because you make a mistake, it doesn't make it okay for a coach to act out. I may give him more rope to rant, but my mistake is not his "get out of jail free" card.

As for how to handle the shot clock, I wish I could say. We don't have one in Ohio, so I have no experience with it and couldn't say. Seems to me that one of the official's on the court should have known, and therefore whistled the play dead. But I don't know the rule.

BTW, a mistake made in the book or by the scorer's table can be fixed if an official has definite knowledge that an error was made. I would guess that, in this case, the mistake could be rectified if an official can say for sure that the shot clock would have reached zero.

I may give a little more rope, if I know a mistake was made and can't be fixed.

1. It's not a guarantee.
2. It's only a little more rope. Very little. He still needs to act like an adult.
3. The key is that I have to know a mistake was made or think it's at least likely.
4. See #2.

Without video, I can't say whether the T was deserved, but I've seen enough of these situations where the coach thinks a bad call was made and thinks he can act like a bad-boy 80's male tennis player.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Adam

Without video, I can't say whether the T was deserved, but I've seen enough of these situations where the coach thinks a bad call was made and thinks he can act like a bad-boy 80's male tennis player.

I'll take, "Breaks my wooden racket on grass turf" for $600, Alex.

The forum doesn't have a tennis page, does it?

[Nevadaref]

Tough situation for the crew. If the try truly did not strike the ring, then this is a mistake by the shot clock operator.
The CIF uses a 35 second shot clock for boys basketball. The rules for its use are published in a CIF rules modification document. I'll consult that and then post again, but my current thought is that this is a timing error, not a correctable error, so if the crew doesn't catch it before the goal is scored, it cannot be fixed.

My analogous situation for those who work HS ball without a shot clock would be the game clock timer failing to start the clock with 3.5 seconds left in a quarter and a team scores. If none of the officials used definite knowledge to blow the play dead before the goal, it has to count and the game continues with the ensuing throw-in by the opponent after any adjustment of the clock by the referee. If no one had any count, then 3.5 stays on the clock.

[referee99]

Here is the only part of CIF shot clock document that is helpful:
- Shot-clock operator mistake: A1 shoots with three seconds on shot clock—ball misses ring/flange, A2 gets rebound. Shot-clock operator mistakenly resets clock on A2’s possession. Team A runs offense for 10 seconds. Timer has official stop play and informs her/him that a mistake was made by resetting the shot clock.
Answer: Call shot-clock violation—ball goes to Team B at end line. If official has actual knowledge, time can be corrected on game clock (add minimum of 10 seconds to game clock).

[Adam]

Gee, I can't wait until the rest of the country gets to use the shot clock.