Manhattan vs. Iona False Double Fouls (Video)

[bwburke94]

It appears from the video to be a double T and a FF1, which is not an ejection.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

It appears from the video to be a double T and a FF1, which is not an ejection.

If you're not going to make the argument that it's FF2 worthy, then I think you're right and this probably should have been the way of assessment. But the fouls were so close together that it took a few looks for me to determine what happened in what order, so I don't necessarily fault the crew here.

Anyway, if you assess it this way, I think what happens is:

1. The FF1 by W5 happens first and causes the ball to become dead. Therefore the common foul on G33 is ignored.

2. The double T is assessed. Adds a Class A T for each player and one more foul to the team foul total for each team, but otherwise has no bearing on what happens next.

3. G12 shoots two on his end for the FF1.

4. G gets the ball under W's basket and we play on.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

If you're not going to make the argument that it's FF2 worthy, then I think you're right and this probably should have been the way of assessment. But the fouls were so close together that it took a few looks for me to determine what happened in what order, so I don't necessarily fault the crew here.

Anyway, if you assess it this way, I think what happens is:

1. The FF1 by W5 happens first and causes the ball to become dead. Therefore the common foul on G33 is ignored.

2. The double T is assessed. Adds a Class A T for each player and one more foul to the team foul total for each team, but otherwise has no bearing on what happens next.

3. G12 shoots two on his end for the FF1.

4. G gets the ball under W's basket and we play on.

If the officials had seen all of the action live and made the calls then, you would be correct. However, if the Flagrant is called upon a monitor review, then the common foul stands.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If the officials had seen all of the action live and made the calls then, you would be correct. However, if the Flagrant is called upon a monitor review, then the common foul stands.

Makes sense. Order of fouls called on the floor matters.

So you're not saying that if the FF had been called first, and then there was a monitor review and then the officials noticed the common foul that they would then assess the common foul, right?

[Raymond]

No they wouldn't.