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Old Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:18pm
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...the NFHS has made it clear that deliberate use of the feet/legs to play the ball violates the intent of the rule.
OK, given the lack of anyone posting how "the NFHS has made it clear...", I guess I've gotta go on . . .

Anyone?

With no further input, I'll drop it.

Thanx, in advance....
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:37pm
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OK, given the lack of anyone posting how "the NFHS has made it clear...",
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Old Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:46pm
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Here is one situation from the NFHS that is related:

Not sure which year this came from, but as cited above by Billy (from 2016):
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*4.29 SITUATION B: A1 has the ball for a throw-in. A1 rolls the ball to A2 who stops the ball by putting his/her foot on top of it, then bends over and picks up the ball. RULING: Kicking violation on A2 for intentionally striking the ball with his/her foot. (9-4)
I suggest that the action in this case is far from "striking" the ball if you go by the normal definition of striking. Yet, merely putting the foot on the ball is sufficient to be considered striking according to this play.

There is an NCAA case directly regarding this situation. The rules are identical, so it would seem, short of anything to suggest otherwise, the intent is the same:
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A.R. 196. A1 is on the floor with the ball lodged between the upper part of the legs. B1 attempts to gain possession of the ball by placing two hands firmly on the ball; however, A1 applies vice-like force with the upper legs, which prevents B1 from gaining possession of the ball.
RULING: A1 has committed a kicking violation. Kicking the ball is defined as striking the ball intentionally with any part of the leg. The intent of this rule is to prevent a player from gaining an advantage by using any part of the leg. Since A1 was not holding the ball in his hands, B1’s firm placement of his hands on the ball does not constitute a held ball.
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Here is one situation from the NFHS that is related:

Not sure which year this came from, but as cited above by Billy (from 2016):


I suggest that the action in this case is far from "striking" the ball if you go by the normal definition of striking. Yet, merely putting the foot on the ball is sufficient to be considered striking according to this play.

There is an NCAA case directly regarding this situation. The rules are identical, so it would seem, short of anything to suggest otherwise, the intent is the same:


Camron:

I could have not said it any better. I like both the use of both a NFHS CB Play and a NCAA A.R.

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