Kentucky-Florida 4 second call?? (Video)

[mutantducky]

to quote form Billy Mac
https://forum.officiating.com/basket...4-version.html

Is this why you guys are seeing a travel?
To start a dribble, the ball must be released before the pivot foot is lifted.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

to quote form Billy Mac
https://forum.officiating.com/basket...4-version.html

Is this why you guys are seeing a travel?
To start a dribble, the ball must be released before the pivot foot is lifted.

Yes, that, plus the fact that he also replanted his pivot foot, so he traveled 2 different ways on the same play.

[jeremy341a]

On play 4 the offensive foul, should the T get the first crack at this since it is in his PCA? Although the C has the better view since the T is so far away and not nearly as good of an angle.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

On play 4 the offensive foul, should the T get the first crack at this since it is in his PCA? Although the C has the better view since the T is so far away and not nearly as good of an angle.

You answered your own question.

I'm really anxious to hear Nevada's opinion now that we have the video.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I'm really anxious to hear Nevada's opinion now that we have the video.

I just went and watched the video clip (actually watched it three times, with emphasis on the last few seconds showing the view from the endline).

Here is what I see. The player has trouble catching the pass with his left hand and does not gain control until his puts both hands on the ball. At this time his left foot is on the floor and his right is in the air, so the left foot will become his pivot foot once the right foot touches the court. It does and he pump fakes the defender. In doing so, he slightly moves his left foot before beginning a dribble. He then gets crushed by the defender. Both the Lead and Center signal for a foul, and the Trail then comes in and calls a travel.
So here are the issues:
a. Does the player actually travel? Yes, there is small movement of the pivot foot before the dribble.
b. Does the Center have a clear and unobstructed view of this play in his PCA? Yes, so it is his call all the way and he passed on the foot movement and called a foul.
c. Ant v Elephant: has this amount of foot movement been called a travel all game or will this be the first time it is penalized? With 52 seconds left, should the Trail come into his partner's PCA and call the travel (the ant) or let his partner go ahead with calling the foul for the kid getting smashed (the elephant)?
I think that the T came and got an ant when everyone else in the building was watching the elephant on the court.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I just went and watched the video clip (actually watched it three times, with emphasis on the last few seconds showing the view from the endline).

Here is what I see. The player has trouble catching the pass with his left hand and does not gain control until his puts both hands on the ball. At this time his left foot is on the floor and his right is in the air, so the left foot will become his pivot foot once the right foot touches the court. It does and he pump fakes the defender. In doing so, he slightly moves his left foot before beginning a dribble. He then gets crushed by the defender. Both the Lead and Center signal for a foul, and the Trail then comes in and calls a travel.
So here are the issues:
a. Does the player actually travel? Yes, there is small movement of the pivot foot before the dribble.
b. Does the Center have a clear and unobstructed view of this play in his PCA? Yes, so it is his call all the way and he passed on the foot movement and called a foul.
c. Ant v Elephant: has this amount of foot movement been called a travel all game or will this be the first time it is penalized? With 52 seconds left, should the Trail come into his partner's PCA and call the travel (the ant) or let his partner go ahead with calling the foul for the kid getting smashed (the elephant)?
I think that the T came and got an ant when everyone else in the building was watching the elephant on the court.

Slightly. Right.

I am the first one to make fun of the almost insane nitpicking of traveling some do around here, but this travel aids in the pump fake that draws the crash onto the ball handler. So you'd advocate not only missing that travel, but also calling the foul on the defender.