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frezer11 Sat Feb 07, 2015 09:13pm

Kentucky-Florida 4 second call?? (Video)
 
Anyone else catch the four second count on the inbounds at 18:28 in the first half? One camera angle shows the official bouncing the ball and beginning his count, and you can see his arm clearly count to four before he whistles it dead.

frezer11 Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:48pm

Also 6:50 left in the second half, travel? Maybe they missed it due to the transition?

Nevadaref Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:07pm

Pat Adams just came from a thousand feet away and whistled a travel under the basket with 52 seconds left saying it was prior to the foul the other two officials were calling. Replay shows he was wrong and that the FL player had begun a dribble.

frezer11 Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:15pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954103)
Pat Adams just came from a thousand feet away and whistled a travel under the basket with 52 seconds left saying it was prior to the foul the other two officials were calling. Replay shows he was wrong and that the FL player had begun a dribble.

Yeah saw that one too. I think they struggled a bit tonight. Bilas was his ridiculous self again tonight too...

Rich Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:21pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954103)
Pat Adams just came from a thousand feet away and whistled a travel under the basket with 52 seconds left saying it was prior to the foul the other two officials were calling. Replay shows he was wrong and that the FL player had begun a dribble.

Someone please post this one so we can judge for ourselves.

Bilas was really ridiculous when he screamed flop earlier and even worse when he argued for a foul against an empty had. Call him and idiot would be an insult to idiots.

Rich Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:38pm

The distance away means nothing to me. The other two were focused on contact. I only care if the player actually traveled or not.

SC Official Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:05am

That sure looked like a correct travel call on the SportsCenter replay. Florida player shuffles his feet while holding the ball before the contact occurs.

Bilas is an a**hole, he always will be, and his opinion is not valued by anyone that has the first clue about officiating.

APG Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:08am

I absolutely hate each and everyone one of y'all for possibly (probably) subjecting me to listen to Bilas bitch.

Nevadaref Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:30am

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 954117)
That sure looked like a correct travel call on the SportsCenter replay. Florida player shuffles his feet while holding the ball before the contact occurs.

Bilas is an a**hole, he always will be, and his opinion is not valued by anyone that has the first clue about officiating.

"Shuffle" isn't specific foot movement and isn't helpful when determining traveling or not. Please state what foot movement you saw.

I agree that Bilas was sanctimonious and unduly negative. His disdain for what I believed was a fully correct PC against Kentucky with about 2 minutes left was absurd.

AremRed Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:43am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954103)
Pat Adams just came from a thousand feet away and whistled a travel under the basket with 52 seconds left saying it was prior to the foul the other two officials were calling. Replay shows he was wrong and that the FL player had begun a dribble.

Replay shows you are wrong. Pat was at Trail -- primary on all post traveling.

AremRed Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:52am

Some of you may be able to browse to the plays (18:28 first half and 6:50, 1:54, and 0:52 second half) here: ESPN3 -- Kentucky vs. Florida

Nevadaref Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:53am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 954127)
Replay shows you are wrong. Pat was at Trail -- primary on all post traveling.

I fully understand that he was the Trail. (Hence my choice to write that he came from 1,000 FT away.). Doesn't magically make his call correct. He can't see the ball on the other side of the player's body.

Furthermore, I haven't been taught that the Trail watches for traveling by post players on the C's side. He can certainly help, but he isn't primary.

AremRed Sun Feb 08, 2015 01:04am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954130)
Doesn't magically make his call correct.

Doesn't magically make his call incorrect either.

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954130)
Furthermore, I haven't been taught that the Trail watches for traveling by post players on the C's side. He can certainly help, but he isn't primary.

Outside the paint on C side? Not Trail's primary. Good thing this was in the paint. Pat had a wide open look at the players feet and he made a great CC.

Nevadaref Sun Feb 08, 2015 01:08am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 954131)
Outside the paint on C side? Not Trail's primary. Good thing this was in the paint. Pat had a wide open look at the players feet and he made a great CC.

Clearly we disagree on the correctness of the decision and also the primary calling official.

Let's talk a little 3-person theory. What is the strong side? Which officials are on that side? Why does the Trail look for post travels?

MechanicGuy Sun Feb 08, 2015 01:42am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 954122)
I agree that Bilas was sanctimonious and unduly negative. His disdain for what I believed was a fully correct PC against Kentucky with about 2 minutes left was absurd.

Bilas is always unbearable when commenting on officiating.

That said, I felt that this PC was questionable. Defender and clear LGP, but he REALLY sold the contact.


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