UNC/Boston College backcourt violation (Video)

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by jmwking

Hess is technically very good. Just lacks people skills. Lots-o-people skills...

Well, there was that "permitting teams to go the wrong way" bit at Marquette a few years ago (not to mention the Rick Pitino "T" when he was shouting instructions to his own player 62 feet away...)

My point for Jrut is....if you're going to can a relatively unknown guy for kicking a backcourt rule, I think you have to can Hess for permitting teams to go the wrong way three years ago. But that didn't happen. In fact I'm guessing he worked the tournament that year, too.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

My point for Jrut is....if you're going to can a relatively unknown guy for kicking a backcourt rule, I think you have to can Hess for permitting teams to go the wrong way three years ago. But that didn't happen. In fact I'm guessing he worked the tournament that year, too.

I never made a single comment about not doing the tournament because of a bad. Again, working the tournament and working a conference are very different. If Official A for example works in the Big 10, ACC and Big East and that official kicks a rule in the Big East, I might not work the Big East Tournament. That does not mean I will not work NCAA Tournament or be recommended by another conference other than the Big East based on that situation. Actually the Big East might suspend and fine Official A and take a game or two away from that official (or the crew).

Now there is evidence of this situation. Remember the Rutgers vs. St. Johns Big East Tournament game in 2011.



Two of the officials were big time officials and one was not as well known at the time. Well they had an ending that was not good and they did not apply some rules or even. I know that all three did not work that tournament the rest of the way. I know that all 3 did not work any other post season conference that year (Two were taken off of the Big Ten Tournament for sure) and I believe only one of them worked the NCAA tournament that year.

I did not say that this guy would never work again, but if the crew allowed this play to stand, they all might have gotten suspended for at least a game. It happens often if you pay attention over the years.

Peace

Is running in blowing your whistle the right way to bring information?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Is running in blowing your whistle the right way to bring information?

Not sure there is a "right way" that everyone would agree with. I think that depends on your supervisor or the association you might belong to. I think giving information to get it right is the most important thing to do in this situation.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not sure there is a "right way" that everyone would agree with. I think that depends on your supervisor or the association you might belong to. I think giving information to get it right is the most important thing to do in this situation.

When something weird happens outside of your primary, be late, be right, and be needed. In the case of the original post situation, all three B's were checked off.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

When something weird happens outside of your primary, be late, be right, and be needed. In the case of the original post situation, all three B's were checked off.

So how exactly did the Lead know that the player at midcourt with his back to him didn't catch the ball and then drop it into the backcourt? Why is he looking there?
If I'm the Lead, I'm not comig to help with this play. The Trail is going to have to live and die with his decision.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So how exactly did the Lead know that the player at midcourt with his back to him didn't catch the ball and then drop it into the backcourt? Why is he looking there?
If I'm the Lead, I'm not comig to help with this play. The Trail is going to have to live and die with his decision.

He might have been looking there to help chop the clock. I agree with you about not having all the information.

I had a play earlier in the year where on a rebound a offensive player saved a ball and threw it near the BC. I was the lead and nothing was called. I had no idea if it was touched or controlled, but I could tell by the reaction that something had happened. I left it alone because I had nothing to give but that a player threw the ball near the BC. It probably was a BC violation, but I was watching rebounding and making sure the player saving the ball was not fouled or continuous contact after save.

Peace

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So how exactly did the Lead know that the player at midcourt with his back to him didn't catch the ball and then drop it into the backcourt? Why is he looking there?
If I'm the Lead, I'm not comig to help with this play. The Trail is going to have to live and die with his decision.

Unless NCAA is different than NFHS, he would be looking there to start the clock on the first touch.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

So how exactly did the Lead know that the player at midcourt with his back to him didn't catch the ball and then drop it into the backcourt? Why is he looking there?
If I'm the Lead, I'm not comig to help with this play. The Trail is going to have to live and die with his decision.

Isn't the Lead responsible for chopping the clock on FC end line throw-ins?