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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 05:22am
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Exclamation NBA - Chris Paul Criticizing a Female Official

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/...ree/ar-AA92S9k

"If that's the case, this might not be for her.""

What do you think the fine's gonna be here?
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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 05:56am
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If Paul's account of the rest of the exchange proves true, probably minimal.
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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 08:38am
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I think he is going to have to clarify what he meant. For one he was making these comments after the game. He might have said other things that got him a T during the game. So I am sure that will be in the game report too. I think $10,000 might be the max he will get at this time.

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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 09:22am
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"Paul, who also is head of the National Basketball Players Association, and several other Clippers players said after postgame interviews that their displeasure had nothing to do with Holtkamp's gender and everything to do with the calls she made on the court."

Replace "her" with "him" and he could have easily applied that statement to any other rookie official.

I think the fine will be around $25K, which is in line with most recent fines for public criticism of officials.
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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 11:28am
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1) he criticized her as an inexperienced official, not as a female official.

2) his account of what happened sounds like a bunch of jibberish
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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 12:20pm
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When's the last time a player said that officiating "may not be for him" with regard to a rookie male official?
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Old Fri Feb 06, 2015, 12:45pm
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1) he criticized her as an inexperienced official, not as a female official.

2) his account of what happened sounds like a bunch of jibberish
Maybe he was not, but it was very dismissive of her. Not sure he would have said that if she was a male. So he set himself up for that one if that is not what he really meant.

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Old Mon Feb 09, 2015, 10:33am
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One would hope that the league would be consistent, but we all know that the fine would not be the same. This particular fine is about the NBA attempting to protect its newest female official. For several years now league has made it known that it has a desire to have a female official or two working games and is going to take whatever measures it needs to enact that. This is mostly PR and PC so the league can been seen as inclusive.
This is flat out wrong and an attempt to twist facts to fit your pre-determined narrative.

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"Paul, who also is head of the National Basketball Players Association, and several other Clippers players said after postgame interviews that their displeasure had nothing to do with Holtkamp's gender and everything to do with the calls she made on the court."

Replace "her" with "him" and he could have easily applied that statement to any other rookie official.

I think the fine will be around $25K, which is in line with most recent fines for public criticism of officials.
As I stated the day before the fine was announced, Paul's fine was in line with several other recent examples of fines levied for public criticism of officials.
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Old Mon Feb 09, 2015, 11:03am
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I saw this documentary a few months ago called Summer Dreams. It features Lauren Holtkamp as the referee hopeful making her way into the D league. It's a fascinating look into her life.

If you want to know more about Lauren, that's a great place to start. I have no idea what Chris Paul said or didn't say. And I'm certainly not qualified to judge whether it was a good T or not. All I can say is she definitely belongs where she is and I'm happy for her. I've never met her but if I can be half the official she is, then I'm doing well.
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