The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 01:11pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 671
Correctable error - wrong way jump

OT jump got lined up the wrong direction, we complete the tip and A gains possession in their back court. Whistle blows before the ball comes into the front court because the error is discovered. Now what? I said give the ball to A on the sideline and correct the direction. Give the arrow to B. Easy peasy. Partner says no, we have to rejump and is adamant. He is the R so we go with it. Rejump goes to B and of course the A crowd and coach is livid. Please tell me my partner is wrong here.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 01:20pm
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by ballgame99 View Post
OT jump got lined up the wrong direction, we complete the tip and A gains possession in their back court. Whistle blows before the ball comes into the front court because the error is discovered. Now what? I said give the ball to A on the sideline and correct the direction. Give the arrow to B. Easy peasy. Partner says no, we have to rejump and is adamant. He is the R so we go with it. Rejump goes to B and of course the A crowd and coach is livid. Please tell me my partner is wrong here.
Your partner is wrong here. Switch directions, give eam who had possession the ball at POI, point arrow other way.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 02:04pm
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,048
Quote:
Originally Posted by ballgame99 View Post
OT jump got lined up the wrong direction, we complete the tip and A gains possession in their back court. Whistle blows before the ball comes into the front court because the error is discovered. Now what? I said give the ball to A on the sideline and correct the direction. Give the arrow to B. Easy peasy. Partner says no, we have to rejump and is adamant. He is the R so we go with it. Rejump goes to B and of course the A crowd and coach is livid. Please tell me my partner is wrong here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed View Post
Your partner is wrong here. Switch directions, give eam who had possession the ball at POI, point arrow other way.

Since you guys are from Missouri did your partner ask you to show him in the rule book why he is wrong, .

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 02:15pm
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
Since you guys are from Missouri
I resent the insinuation that I am from Missouri!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 02:19pm
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,048
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed View Post
I resent the insinuation that I am from Missouri!

I didn't mean you. I meant BallGame. His location is Missouri.

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 02:42pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by ballgame99 View Post
OT jump got lined up the wrong direction, we complete the tip and A gains possession in their back court. Whistle blows before the ball comes into the front court because the error is discovered. Now what? I said give the ball to A on the sideline and correct the direction. Give the arrow to B. Easy peasy. Partner says no, we have to rejump and is adamant. He is the R so we go with it. Rejump goes to B and of course the A crowd and coach is livid. Please tell me my partner is wrong here.
1. Your partner got it wrong.
2. The coach needs to relax. The crowd will likely follow his lead.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 02:49pm
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: DE
Posts: 226
What Adam said. Not a big deal (except to maybe your assigner/supervisor/observer).
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 04:21pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: FL
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
2. The coach needs to relax. The crowd will likely follow his lead.
I would expect the coach to be more than a little upset if a mis-applied rule cost him the first possession of OT.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 04:24pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by griblets View Post
I would expect the coach to be more than a little upset if a mis-applied rule cost him the first possession of OT.
sure -- but it didn't.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 04:47pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: FL
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
sure -- but it didn't.
In the first jump, A got the ball. After the re-jump, B got the ball. I would expect coach A to be livid.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 04:52pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,019
Quote:
Originally Posted by griblets View Post
In the first jump, A got the ball. After the re-jump, B got the ball. I would expect coach A to be livid.
My mistake. I forgot the play (I had it that they kept the ball and just switched to go the right way).
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 04:59pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Virginia
Posts: 152
Quote:
Originally Posted by griblets View Post
In the first jump, A got the ball. After the re-jump, B got the ball. I would expect coach A to be livid.
I agree that coach A would be livid. However, several people - including coach A and all of Team A's players - could have recognized that the jumpers were lined up the wrong way.

I don't know it there is anything the U can do if the R won't change his/her mind. (We always keep our rule books in the locker room, but they don't usually do us much good there except to discuss what we might have done right or wrong earlier in the game.)

Suppose Coach A produced a rule book and a case book play, would the R have looked at it? Would most officials look at the rule book or just go by what they know to be true? I would look at it and hope to resolve it quickly.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 05:21pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffM View Post
Suppose Coach A produced a rule book and a case book play, would the R have looked at it? Would most officials look at the rule book or just go by what they know to be true? I would look at it and hope to resolve it quickly.
Then it wouldn't matter. Technical Foul on Coach A; Ball on the sidelines for Team B after the free throws. Arrow to Team A.
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 05:57pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by MD Longhorn View Post
Then it wouldn't matter. Technical Foul on Coach A; Ball on the sidelines for Team B after the free throws. Arrow to Team A.
Yep, we're not going to go through a rule book and verify rules during the game. If he thinks I got it wrong, he can email my assigner later.

Note: Missouri may be an exception, but I don't now, nor have I ever, worked in Missouri.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Tue Feb 03, 2015, 09:27am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 671
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
Since you guys are from Missouri did your partner ask you to show him in the rule book why he is wrong, .

MTD, Sr.
I see what you did there.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wrong way after jump Rita C Basketball 3 Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:16pm
Correctable Error or Not?? FeetBallRef Basketball 20 Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:14am
Wrong player correctable error ChuckElias Basketball 27 Fri Nov 03, 2006 09:39am
Correctable error at jump ball John Schaefferkoetter Basketball 13 Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:37am
Correctable Error - Jump Ball Todd (Mike) Mullen Basketball 1 Tue Jan 11, 2000 11:12pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:03pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1