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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 12:50pm
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Is there a level/age group of play where you might call the offensive player for that much advancement, and contact, as his defender "gives ground."
Does the position of the offensive player's forearm have any influence on a decision to call this an offensive foul?
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 01:00pm
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Is there a level/age group of play where you might call the offensive player for that much advancement, and contact, as his defender "gives ground."
If the defender is "giving ground", how is that advancement illegal?

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Does the position of the offensive player's forearm have any influence on a decision to call this an offensive foul?
Are there any rules prohibiting an offensive player from holding off a defender with his forearm?
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 04:51pm
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If the defender is "giving ground", how is that advancement illegal?



Are there any rules prohibiting an offensive player from holding off a defender with his forearm?
4-24-7 . . . It is not legal to use the hand and/or forearm to prevent an opponent from attacking the ball during a dribble . . ."

I'm looking for input as to how one would answer those questions a) in a setting where newer officials are being trained, and b) when an official is confronted by a coach with that inquiry.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 05:29pm
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4-24-7 . . . It is not legal to use the hand and/or forearm to prevent an opponent from attacking the ball during a dribble . . ."

I'm looking for input as to how one would answer those questions a) in a setting where newer officials are being trained, and b) when an official is confronted by a coach with that inquiry.
In regards to the forearm, I'm looking for extension and displacement, and hindering the normal defensive activities.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 06:05pm
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4-24-7 . . . It is not legal to use the hand and/or forearm to prevent an opponent from attacking the ball during a dribble . . ."

I'm looking for input as to how one would answer those questions a) in a setting where newer officials are being trained, and b) when an official is confronted by a coach with that inquiry.
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 11:06pm
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Point of the Foul #8. Officials Manual, p. 70.

Play 1: Another excellent illustration and reason for high school officials to stick with our own prescribed mechanics versus the "fashionable" fist up and leave trend.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 12:12am
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Play 1: Another excellent illustration and reason for high school officials to stick with our own prescribed mechanics versus the "fashionable" fist up and leave trend.
Maybe in your corner of the world. I don't work with anyone that gives a litany of signals before heading to the table.
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1. Looked like a clean strip, but the L had a better look at any contact.

2. Blocking foul. Defender jumped forward, and made contact with the shooter with only one foot on the floor. No LGP.
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Old Mon Feb 02, 2015, 07:38am
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Maybe in your corner of the world. I don't work with anyone that gives a litany of signals before heading to the table.
Sorry I didn't make myself more clear. Wasn't implying officials need to go through a litany of signals; rather, who was responsible for observing and diffusing the immediate reaction of the players? The lead official or #12 from Duke?
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Old Sun Feb 01, 2015, 01:01pm
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I don't think I'd call this at any level I do.

And the position of the forearm can have some influence (but the movement of it has more), but not in this case.
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