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JRutledge Wed Jan 28, 2015 09:18pm

Duke at Notre Dame (Video)
 
2:42 in the second half. There is a foul on a ND player who blocks the Duke big man. Looks like all ball, but I would like to see again.

Peace

JRutledge Wed Jan 28, 2015 09:26pm

9.2 seconds. A shooting foul on a ND defender. Was this a foul or not?

Peace

APG Sat Jan 31, 2015 04:49pm

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Raymond Sat Jan 31, 2015 04:58pm

1) Quite possible that W32's contact from behind was on the wrist.

2) I can live with this call, but it was close.

Nevadaref Sat Jan 31, 2015 05:12pm

Didn't think either were fouls when watching the game. My opinion didn't change when seeing them again on the forum.

Bad Zebra Sat Jan 31, 2015 05:15pm

1) Who was the foul called on? I didn't see anything on W35...I couldn't tell if W32 got the arm.

2) Second (overhead) camera angle shows defender moving into shooter creating contact. Calling official had a beautiful angle. I can live with this one.

deecee Sat Jan 31, 2015 06:02pm

i had no fouls on either.

Texref Sat Jan 31, 2015 09:10pm

I don't think there was anything on the first play. Looked like ball/hand.

Second is a tough call, but I believe defender jumped into offense. Although I wouldn't argue that he landed prior to offense shooting.

Nevadaref Sat Jan 31, 2015 09:55pm

Please notice that shooter in the second play significantly jumps forward.

APG Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 953145)
Please notice that shooter in the second play significantly jumps forward.

And?

Raymond Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:16pm

In play 1 there is no camera angle that shows where W32 makes contact with ball or player, so how can we judge if the Lead got it right? I'm trusting the Lead saw illegal contact.

ccrroo Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:27pm

Fan here. Just curious.

In play 1 (in the post) is there an opportunity for W32 to take a charge. It looks like W32 is in great position and B15 is just moving him out of the way.

Does he not take a charge because the rules don't allow it or because he doesn't think a charge is the best defense in that situation?

I might suggest to my 12 year old in that great of position to take a charge. But if it's not a good option, I'd like to understand why.

bob jenkins Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccrroo (Post 953151)
Fan here. Just curious.

In play 1 (in the post) is there an opportunity for W32 to take a charge. It looks like W32 is in great position and B15 is just moving him out of the way.

Does he not take a charge because the rules don't allow it or because he doesn't think a charge is the best defense in that situation?

I might suggest to my 12 year old in that great of position to take a charge. But if it's not a good option, I'd like to understand why.

I think you mean white 35.

And, yes, one of the decisions we frequently have to make is whether the offense is displacing the defense, or whether the defense is simply giving ground.

mutantducky Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:37pm

first video no foul, but whatever not really a controversial play and those happen.
Second one is the classic case of the ref anticipating the foul because the defender got up in the air, only problem was the lack of a foul.

AremRed Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:42pm

Play 1: Nothing. Great job by Lead leaving early while players were still tussling.

Play 2: Nothing


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