Slapping Backboard

[so cal lurker]

... in an honest attempt to block a shot is a whole bunch of nothing, right?

Saw it in a frosh game, and the other team fans became unglued and the coach kept chirping for a long time . . . but it's nothing, right?

[srp6977]

You are correct nothing.

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

... in an honest attempt to block a shot is a whole bunch of nothing, right?

Saw it in a frosh game, and the other team fans became unglued and the coach kept chirping for a long time . . . but it's nothing, right?

NFHS 10-3-4:

A player shall not:

Illegally contact the backboard/ring by:

a. Placing a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage.

b. Intentionally slapping or striking the backboard or causing the ring to vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket.

[frezer11]

Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

Yes -- but probably not under the code likely being used in the game.

[APG]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

Under NFHS, no you can not.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

No, you can't.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by APG

Under NFHS, no you can not.

Originally Posted by Adam

No, you can't.

You're right, I was thinking of the NCAA change

[chymechowder]

So in NFHS, if A1 tries a layup and B1 goes for a legit tomahawk block, misses, slaps backboard hard enough to vibrate the ring, and the try caroms off the (still vibrating) ring....

still nothing?

[Rob1968]

Take a look at Case Book play 10.3.4 SITUATION: A1 tries for a goal, and (a) B1 jumps and attempts to block the shot but instead slaps or strikes the backboard and the ball goes into the basket . . . RULING: In (a) legal and the basket counts.
(Situation (b) and the COMMENTS are of value to be studied - I don't have time right now to include them in this post.)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

... in an honest attempt to block a shot is a whole bunch of nothing, right?

Saw it in a frosh game, and the other team fans became unglued and the coach kept chirping for a long time . . . but it's nothing, right?

Deleted portion not relevant to conversation.

[BryanV21]

Probably the same fans and coaches that scream for "over the back" fouls.

As for the fans... don't listen to them.

As for the coaches, just say "it's not a violation". Either he shuts up, or he's wrong.

[JeffM]

I know that slapping the backboard is neither a technical foul or a violation.

I'm not certain what to do if my partner calls it. What if I'm the R? What if I'm the U/U1/U2?

I believe I should stop the game and have a brief conversation about it with my partner and hope that I can quickly change his mind and changes his call to an inadvertent whistle. Depending on his experience relative to mind would determine how much I would encourage him to change his call. I would tell him that we would discuss it at halftime or after the game. Of course, it would not be a correctable error at that point.

Does that seem like a reasonable approach?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JeffM

I know that slapping the backboard is neither a technical foul or a violation.

I'm not certain what to do if my partner calls it. What if I'm the R? What if I'm the U/U1/U2?

I believe I should stop the game and have a brief conversation about it with my partner and hope that I can quickly change his mind and changes his call to an inadvertent whistle. Depending on his experience relative to mind would determine how much I would encourage him to change his call. I would tell him that we would discuss it at halftime or after the game. Of course, it would not be a correctable error at that point.

Does that seem like a reasonable approach?

It can be a technical foul in some circumstances (as addressed earlier in the thread). In NFHS, it cannot be a BI violation. So if your partner calls BI, I might go share the information I have if it appeared he/she called BI only because of the backboard slap. If you're not satisfied with the response, try to explain how that's not BI in NFHS in five seconds or less. If that doesn't sway him/her, just move on and talk about it later. No use having a clinic while everyone's waiting.

Again, as highlighted in the Gonzaga vs. BYU thread, slapping the backboard while the ball is in the cylinder can be a violation under NCAA rules. But don't call it that way in high school.

[chymechowder]

I'm not trying to make the case that it should be BI in NFHS. Just getting a feel for when, if ever, you guys would call a T for it.

Say B is leading by 2 pts. A1 releases the ball on a layup try with 3 secs remaining. The ball is rolling around the ring when B1 slaps the backboard, causing it to slightly vibrate. The ball falls off the ring as time expires.

Ruling?