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so cal lurker Tue Jan 20, 2015 02:25pm

Slapping Backboard
 
... in an honest attempt to block a shot is a whole bunch of nothing, right?

Saw it in a frosh game, and the other team fans became unglued and the coach kept chirping for a long time . . . but it's nothing, right?

srp6977 Tue Jan 20, 2015 02:33pm

You are correct nothing.

La Rikardo Tue Jan 20, 2015 03:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 951283)
... in an honest attempt to block a shot is a whole bunch of nothing, right?

Saw it in a frosh game, and the other team fans became unglued and the coach kept chirping for a long time . . . but it's nothing, right?

NFHS 10-3-4:

A player shall not:

Illegally contact the backboard/ring by:

a. Placing a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage.

b. Intentionally slapping or striking the backboard or causing the ring to vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket.

frezer11 Tue Jan 20, 2015 03:42pm

Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

Rob1968 Tue Jan 20, 2015 03:47pm

Take a look at Case Book play 10.3.4 SITUATION: A1 tries for a goal, and (a) B1 jumps and attempts to block the shot but instead slaps or strikes the backboard and the ball goes into the basket . . . RULING: In (a) legal and the basket counts.
(Situation (b) and the COMMENTS are of value to be studied - I don't have time right now to include them in this post.)

bob jenkins Tue Jan 20, 2015 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 951303)
Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

Yes -- but probably not under the code likely being used in the game.

APG Tue Jan 20, 2015 03:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 951303)
Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

Under NFHS, no you can not.

Adam Tue Jan 20, 2015 04:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 951303)
Honest attempt = Not a Technical, but you could potentially have BI

No, you can't.

frezer11 Tue Jan 20, 2015 05:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by APG (Post 951308)
Under NFHS, no you can not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 951310)
No, you can't.

You're right, I was thinking of the NCAA change

chymechowder Tue Jan 20, 2015 06:14pm

So in NFHS, if A1 tries a layup and B1 goes for a legit tomahawk block, misses, slaps backboard hard enough to vibrate the ring, and the try caroms off the (still vibrating) ring....

still nothing?

Adam Tue Jan 20, 2015 06:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by chymechowder (Post 951329)
So in NFHS, if A1 tries a layup and B1 goes for a legit tomahawk block, misses, slaps backboard hard enough to vibrate the ring, and the try caroms off the (still vibrating) ring....

still nothing?

Nada

Edit: nothing but a sore hand

BillyMac Tue Jan 20, 2015 08:02pm

Who You Gonna Call ???
 
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6230/6...473e048e_m.jpg

A player cannot touch the ball, ring, or net while the ball is on the ring or within the basket. A player cannot touch the ball if it is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. These are examples of basket interference. It is legal to touch the ring or the net if the ball is above the ring and not touching the ring, even if the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the ring. It is legal to hang on the ring if a player is avoiding an injury to himself or herself or another player.

The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, and has the possibility of entering the basket. On most layups, the ball is going up after it contacts the backboard. It is legal to pin the ball against the backboard if it still on the way up and is not in the imaginary cylinder above the basket. Slapping the backboard is neither basket interference nor is it goaltending and points cannot be awarded. A player who strikes a backboard, during a tap, or a try, so forcefully that it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul. When a player simply attempts to block a shot and accidentally slaps the backboard it is neither a violation nor is it a technical foul.

Raymond Tue Jan 20, 2015 08:38pm

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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 951283)
... in an honest attempt to block a shot is a whole bunch of nothing, right?

Saw it in a frosh game, <s>and the other team fans became unglued and the coach kept chirping for a long time</s> . . . but it's nothing, right?

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BryanV21 Tue Jan 20, 2015 08:47pm

Probably the same fans and coaches that scream for "over the back" fouls.

As for the fans... don't listen to them.

As for the coaches, just say "it's not a violation". Either he shuts up, or he's wrong.

JeffM Tue Jan 20, 2015 09:20pm

What if my partner calls it?
 
I know that slapping the backboard is neither a technical foul or a violation.

I'm not certain what to do if my partner calls it. What if I'm the R? What if I'm the U/U1/U2?

I believe I should stop the game and have a brief conversation about it with my partner and hope that I can quickly change his mind and changes his call to an inadvertent whistle. Depending on his experience relative to mind would determine how much I would encourage him to change his call. I would tell him that we would discuss it at halftime or after the game. Of course, it would not be a correctable error at that point.

Does that seem like a reasonable approach?


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