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Your adding a bunch of stuff that doesn't matter (bouncing, between bounces, etc) that doesn't matter.
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Can the Official Forum do something about this? I send my Official Forum dues to Treasurer Mark Padgett every month, and I want the Forum to use that money to lobby the NFHS for a change in the rule to make the backcourt interpretation more consistent across all situations.
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If both feet in the FC and then dribble in the BC then that is a violation? YES Say feet stay in the FC but ball doesn't. If the ball is dribbled on the division line but feet in the FC, that is not a violation. It IS a violation. What I meant by the rule only applying to the dribbler is for a dribbler with BC status crossing the division line into FC. In this situation, all three points (2 feet + ball) apply. Let's say the dribbler backs into the front court and gets two feet on the FC side of the line but the ball keeps bouncing on the BC side. In this case the dribbler is still located in the BC. The moment his dribble first bounces on the FC side, the ball now has FC status, and any subsequent dribble on or behind the line would be a BC violation. |
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It seems the major factor is when/how the ball is recovered. Catching it before it hits the floor in the BC is a violation but gathering it after it has hit the floor is not. Still seems contradictory to the exceptions but at least there is enough of a distinction there to ease my mind.
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the play ruling says the single touch by A2 is simultaneously touching it in FC and BC---or at the same time. simultaneously is not BEFORE. the last player to touch it BEFORE it gained BC status was B. my thoughts. |
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A LOT of people's thoughts.
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yeah, it doesnt follow. i cant remember how old the play is and if the wording of the backcourt rule was different at the time.
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It wasn't. This interp is not that old. Maybe in the 2008-2010 range.
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Edit: Jon has revised his answer and this play IS NOT a violation in NCAAW. Now if only the FED will follow suit. Last edited by bob jenkins; Mon Feb 02, 2015 at 04:22pm. |
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No violation in a) since B1 was last to touch. Start a new 10 count as soon as ball obtains BC status. Violation in b) if Team A is first to touch in BC.
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Why would you have those as different? Either you believe the interp and they are both a violation, or you don't believe the interp and they are both legal. |
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