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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 11:59am
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In Wyo, coaches have to go through a certification process with the state education offices, which means that a parent CANNOT come down and take the place of a coach. If they only had the one coach on the bench, at least here, that game ends in a forfeit.
Are you instructed to check credentials, or simply refuse to allow anyone to join the bench after the game has started?

What if, for example, a varsity AC comes in after the JV HC gets tossed?
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 12:06pm
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Are you instructed to check credentials, or simply refuse to allow anyone to join the bench after the game has started?

What if, for example, a varsity AC comes in after the JV HC gets tossed?
For both parts, no one who isn't already a part of the team is supposed to be allowed to continue the game. So for your second question, that would be OK, since that assistant is a part of the program.

While I'm about 95% sure this shouldn't be allowed, I will admit to one thing I'm not certain about, is if a home team JV HC gets tossed, and, say the school's head football coach is in the gym, can he take over since he is clearly certified? Still pretty sure no, since they are not part of the team, but I don't believe that would violate any NFHS rule. I'm going to check on this...
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 12:15pm
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For both parts, no one who isn't already a part of the team is supposed to be allowed to continue the game. So for your second question, that would be OK, since that assistant is a part of the program.

While I'm about 95% sure this shouldn't be allowed, I will admit to one thing I'm not certain about, is if a home team JV HC gets tossed, and, say the school's head football coach is in the gym, can he take over since he is clearly certified? Still pretty sure no, since they are not part of the team, but I don't believe that would violate any NFHS rule. I'm going to check on this...
Ok, got clarification from a state evaluator here, and he says it just has to be school personnel. As far as the certification is concerned, that's on the school to be in compliance, not our job. Sort of like quarter limits for JV/V players.
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For both parts, no one who isn't already a part of the team is supposed to be allowed to continue the game. So for your second question, that would be OK, since that assistant is a part of the program.

While I'm about 95% sure this shouldn't be allowed, I will admit to one thing I'm not certain about, is if a home team JV HC gets tossed, and, say the school's head football coach is in the gym, can he take over since he is clearly certified? Still pretty sure no, since they are not part of the team, but I don't believe that would violate any NFHS rule. I'm going to check on this...
Dad can come down and coach without violating NFHS rules. States set these requirements.
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Rich1, does the UIL have anything to say about a coach being ejected in the first game of a double header returning for the second game?

I had a situation when I started where I should have tossed a coach in the first game. I didn't but I realized she was the only coach for both games.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 12:27am
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Rich1, does the UIL have anything to say about a coach being ejected in the first game of a double header returning for the second game?

I had a situation when I started where I should have tossed a coach in the first game. I didn't but I realized she was the only coach for both games.

I don't know of any thing that would prevent them from coaching in the second game unless there was a sport specific rule from NFHS or other rules organization. For the most part, the UIL is concerned with eligibilty and contest rules but adopts game rules from organizations like NFHS. Each school plays in an Athletic Competition District that can adopt penaltues for misconduct but they usually don't since it is self governed.

There is a procedure for coaches who are ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct but it would take several days at best to work through it. In a nut shell, when a coach is ejected the Athletic Director has 3 days to notify the UIL. They will then consider the facts and may publicly reprimand (tey print your name in the back of the coaches magazine) or suspend the coach if warranted. I believe this would only apply if he got two direct techs, not for an ejection from three indirects since that would not involve unsportsmanlike conduct. Its much more cut and dry for other sports.

I can tell you that my AD is all over the bball coaches (all the caches actually) at my school about getting techs. He does not lik to have to talk to the UIL or have the name of our district in the naughty part of the mag.
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In our area, if we dq a player, other than for 5 fouls, or eject a coach, we must file a report within 24 hours, with the HS Activites Assn. If the dq or ejection is upheld, that player or coach must sit out all subsequent games through/including the next game at that same level.
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I'd be weary about forfeiting a game in such scenarios. Unless explicitly instructed to do so I'm hoping a parent or some adult steps up. This shouldn't happen in a varsity game as pretty much all schools I see and get have at least 2 assistants.

Either way, I'm letting the new guy know his coach used up all the good will and he should only focus on coaching.
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