Is the coach ejected?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

...the Intermission ends when the Second Signal sounds sixty seconds after the Start of the Intermission.

Therefore, it is logical that the Intermission has to have ended before the Throw-in to start the Fourth Quarter can begin. That means that you could charge all three players with TFs and their HC is not charged three IDTFs.

I respectfully disagree. The fourth quarter begins when the ball first becomes live to start the period. If the intermission by definition ended at the 60-second horn, what would you call the interval between that and when the ball becomes live? It would be neither intermission nor fourth quarter.

I don't believe it works this way. I believe the intermission ends when the ball becomes live to begin the quarter.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I respectfully disagree. The fourth quarter begins when the ball first becomes live to start the period. If the intermission by definition ended at the 60-second horn, what would you call the interval between that and when the ball becomes live? It would be neither intermission nor fourth quarter.

I don't believe it works this way. I believe the intermission ends when the ball becomes live to begin the quarter.

Nowhere in the rules does it say the intermission ends when the ball becomes live to begin the quarter.

Rule 2-12-4: "The timer shall sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an intermission or a time-out, immediately after which the players shall prepare to resume play, and signal again at the end of the intermission or time-out."

The end of the intermission and the ball becoming live to start the period are not necessarily simultaneous events.

[crosscountry55]

Humiliation is what one receives when not checking the book before posting.

Well said. I stand corrected.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

If the intermission by definition ended at the 60-second horn, what would you call the interval between that and when the ball becomes live? It would be neither intermission nor fourth quarter.

Just to answer this question for completeness--covered by a phrase in 2-2-3: "...periods when the game may be momentarily stopped..."

[La Rikardo]

I don't think the rules support charging the HC with one or several indirect Ts in OP's situation. It would seem that the intermission ends when the second horn sounds (as implied by 2-12-4) and so after that we have five team members who are players and not bench personnel (by 4-34-1 and 4-34-2). If the official in OP's scenario decided to punish the dissent from the three team members, the fouls would have to be unsporting player technical fouls.

[La Rikardo]

How about one T right before the horn and two more right after the horn? Sit down, coach!

Anyone ever had a simultaneous tech on teammates? I've had one after another but not 2 or more at the same time.

[La Rikardo]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Anyone ever had a simultaneous tech on teammates? I've had one after another but not 2 or more at the same time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but two teammates committing technical fouls at approximately the same time would be a false multiple foul situation, not a simultaneous foul situation. Simultaneous technical fouls would be A1 committing a technical foul at approximately the same time as B1 and the fouls are not committed against each other.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Correct me if I'm wrong, but two teammates committing technical fouls at approximately the same time would be a false multiple foul situation, not a simultaneous foul situation. Simultaneous technical fouls would be A1 committing a technical foul at approximately the same time as B1 and the fouls are not committed against each other.

Incorrect. False multiples happen at the same "clock" time but don't happen at the same time.

A false multiple foul is a situation in which there are two or more fouls by the same team and the last foul is committed before the clock is started following the first, and at least one of the attributes of a multiple foul is absent.

Example: B1 fouls A1. During the throwin or free throw for A (before the clock is started), B3 fouls A3. That is a false multiple....same "game time" but different "time".

It appears that two teammates committing technical fouls at approximately the same time doesn't have a special name. It is just two fouls that occur at approximately the same time. It doesn't really need a name since the administration would be the same no matter how it is labeled.