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Old Mon Dec 29, 2014, 02:44am
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are you ok with this being a No Call? I just can't tell and I think I wouldn't have called anything for this play. I just think both the defender and the offensive player had equal right to the area, and I would just have let the contact happen without a foul being called.
A no call should not be one of the choices in this play. This is a foul one way or the other and should be called.
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Old Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:56am
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I'm going with Nevada's call; release was before contact.
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Old Tue Dec 30, 2014, 01:59pm
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ok, so what about incidental contact. or a play in the textbooks, when both players have an equal right the the space and the defender jumps up and the offensive player crashes into him. That could be a no-call.
I can see the same situation here, so what if the defender doesn't jump?
To me I see both players in a good position. I don't see why there needs to be a call here.
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Old Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:27pm
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ok, so what about incidental contact. or a play in the textbooks, when both players have an equal right the the space and the defender jumps up and the offensive player crashes into him. That could be a no-call.
I can see the same situation here, so what if the defender doesn't jump?
To me I see both players in a good position. I don't see why there needs to be a call here.
I usually just put videos up and let the rest of the forum decide on the play, but I got to comment here...

A no call is definitely not one of the options on this play. Block or charge, I really don't care. This is a tough play to decide on one of those, so I'm not going to set up in one camp or the other. However, you say that both players have "equal right" to the space. Then you say that the defender jumps up and the offensive player CRASHES into him. You have just told us that you SHOULD have a charge on this play by what you described. This cannot be a no call.

There are some who believe that the defender moves forward after the offensive player leaves the floor, making this a block. That's fine too. However, bodies have gone to the floor on this play, and we HAVE to have a whistle here.

Period.
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Old Tue Dec 30, 2014, 02:30pm
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ok, so what about incidental contact. or a play in the textbooks, when both players have an equal right the the space and the defender jumps up and the offensive player crashes into him. That could be a no-call.
I can see the same situation here, so what if the defender doesn't jump?
To me I see both players in a good position. I don't see why there needs to be a call here.
Didn't the offense gain an advantage? that's why there needs to be a call.

You could have a no call if the defense was legal, the offense bumped into him, the defense wasn't displaced, the offense did nothing but make the shot harder for himself....
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