Illegal Screen? (video)

[JRutledge]

I am not seeing a foul. Now maybe that is because of the angle or the darkness it is hard to distinguish the background from the players on the court, but I do not see a foul here. I see a bigger player running into a wall. Now if the arms extended, I have a foul. But it does not look that way based on the quality of the video.

Peace

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not seeing a foul. Now maybe that is because of the angle or the darkness it is hard to distinguish the background from the players on the court, but I do not see a foul here. I see a bigger player running into a wall. Now if the arms extended, I have a foul. But it does not look that way based on the quality of the video.

Peace

Jeff:

I agree. This was a legal screen. It looked bad to the fans and coaches who are not versed in the rules of the game because the defender was small and bounced off the screener like a rubber ball thrown against a brick wall. But I believe the screener was penalized for being much bigger than the screenee.

MTD, Sr.

[BryanV21]

I saw the screener rotate her shoulder into the defender. It's not as though she stood still and the defender ran into her.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I saw the screener rotate her shoulder into the defender. It's not as though she stood still and the defender ran into her.

I know that we have the benefit of slow play in this video, but W-54 did not pivot until after the defender made contact and once bouncing off of her.

This was a tough play but I am inclined to give the Screener the benefit of the doubt in this play.

MTD, Sr.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I know that we have the benefit of slow play in this video, but W-54 did not pivot until after the defender made contact and once bouncing off of her.

This was a tough play but I am inclined to give the Screener the benefit of the doubt in this play.

MTD, Sr.

Mark, i thought the shoulder rotated in on the first view and i still think it now. not really dealing with the pivot. her top half turns and delivers a blow. just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I know that we have the benefit of slow play in this video, but W-54 did not pivot until after the defender made contact and once bouncing off of her.

This was a tough play but I am inclined to give the Screener the benefit of the doubt in this play.

MTD, Sr.

Agreed. If we're not sure, don't call anything and I'm with JRut and MTDS. The screener didn't create the contact.

[just another ref]

I have a foul.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I would like to add one other observation before going back to bed. Notice which foot W-54 is her pivot foot. It is her left foot. Her pivot has her opening or pivoting away from her teammate who is being guarded by the screenee. W-54, during her pivot, has not left her original spot on the court.

I would also like to add that I hope W-54 sent her check to Bill Lambeer for teaching her how to set a pick, .

MTD, Sr.

[TimTaylor]

I've got a foul on W54.

She was not stationary at the time of contact, and while the video quality is poor, looking carefully you can see her left shoulder moving towards the defender immediately prior to contact. Further, even though she initially pivoted on her left foot, almost immediately with the contact she stepped forward with her left foot into the defender and you can see her using her left arm to push the defender to the floor. If the initial contact wasn't a foul, what immediately followed certainly was.

Good call IMHO.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I saw the screener rotate her shoulder into the defender. It's not as though she stood still and the defender ran into her.

Agree, but I had to watch the video twice to be sure.